Title | : | Credence |
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ISBN | : | - |
ISBN-10 | : | 9781660089055 |
Language | : | English |
Format Type | : | Paperback |
Number of Pages | : | 470 |
Publication | : | First published January 13, 2020 |
And when they suddenly pass away, she knows she should be devastated. But has anything really changed? She’s always been alone, hasn’t she?
Jake Van der Berg, her father’s stepbrother and her only living relative, assumes guardianship of Tiernan who is still two months shy of eighteen. Sent to live with him and his two sons, Noah and Kaleb, in the mountains of Colorado, Tiernan soon learns that these men now have a say in what she chooses to care and not care about anymore. As the three of them take her under their wing, teach her to work and survive in the remote woods far away from the rest of the world, she slowly finds her place among them.
And as a part of them.
She also realizes that lines blur and rules become easy to break when no one else is watching.
One of them has her.
The other one wants her.
But he…
He’s going to keep her.
*Credence is a new adult standalone novel suitable for readers 18+.
Credence Reviews
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What the actual HELL did I just read????
Girl's parents commit suicide. Girl is placed under care of her father's stepbrother, who lives in the mountains of Colorado with his two sons. Girl spends winter hopping from one of their beds to the other, before 'falling in love' with the one who's a psycho.
HERE'S WHY NONE OF THIS WORKED FOR ME:
❌ The relationships were not handled well AT ALL. The girl (Tiernan) has sex with her step-uncle Jake first, then step-cousin Noah, then other step-cousin Kaleb. It's just... well, it's hard to describe, but the moment she's finished having sex with Jake or Noah, all the lust that the author has spent ages building up fizzles out of her. It's really weird. But then at random moments, the lust comes back. I just don't understand it, but I can't really explain. Just take my word for it that the relationship dynamics are handled badly and illogically.
❌ Kaleb is a goddamned psychopath. Just trust me on this, as someone who usually loves psychopathic heroes (I gave 5 stars to The Silver Devil and I like Addison Cain, for f*ck's sake) he leaves them in the dust. He doesn't speak because of a 'childhood trauma', he does nothing but rape the heroine until she's convinced she likes it, and finally throws her birth control pills into the bin. If the author balanced this by showing us moments where he CARED about the heroine, I could have possibly tolerated it; I have a high threshold for dark heroes. But he doesn't give a crap about the heroine. HE SPITS ON HER, he slaps her, he throws food at her... Bloody hell.
❌ The 'love' in this book is a joke. Simply, the heroine has sex with three men, and then arbitrarily decides to fall in love with one of them over the other. That's it. There's no deeper reason. They never speak to each other, Kaleb isn't even in like half the book, he rapes her like it's going out of fashion... even when we get a chapter from his perspective, it's evident he feels nothing for the heroine besides a vague physical interest in her. THERE IS ZERO BASIS for their love and this book is not a romance.
❌ I have to say, I can't blame the heroine too much, because Tiernan is clearly suffering from intense mental disturbances and she honestly just needs professional help. It's not her fault - her parents never paid any attention to her. So of course, suddenly three attractive men are displaying interest in her, and she mistakes the Stockholm-esque nature of her feelings for Kaleb for love.
❌ This book is MISOGYNISTIC AS F*CK. It's all about every male in the book having an endless supply of slutty women while they pull a shotgun on a guy flirting with the heroine (whom obviously, the author makes into a baddie. So there isn't even any real option for the heroine). Tiernan thinks about telling the men how hypocritical they are, then sort of just forgets all about it. I wanted to reach into this book and strangle every male character in it.
❌ There's a plot-line about Kaleb possibly getting an OW pregnant. As if this dumpster fire of a book wasn't bad enough.
Think I'm going to stop there, but I've read and disliked Penelope Douglas's heroes before so I really should never have put myself through this torture. Stay the hell away.
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18+ (look up TW: includes SA & blatant r*pe)
no. just no. i don’t think i’ve ever read anything so manipulative. literally 3 men manipulate 1 teenage girl. that’s it, that’s the plot. it’s only getting 2 stars because it was an addictive read, but all for the wrong reasons. & because of the scenery/setting -reminded me of twilight.
it was a whole bunch of nothing. i knew what i was getting into but if you’re gonna read this don’t go into it thinking it’s a “dark smutty romance” when it’s just clear abuse after abuse. i don’t get shocked easily but my jaw was on the floor with this one, and not in a good way.
if you ever plan to read this, which i highly suggest you don’t, think critically about what you’re reading because 100% of the things that happened in this book is nothing that should be condoned or romanticized in real life -
spoiler filled release day reading vlog
okay SO. i really enjoyed this book but i would warn you that there is violence that some might see as abuse, there is dub con, and there are some VERY taboo situations here. like if you've read jessa kane/alexa riley this is like that, with plot.
i really really enjoyed the emotional thread running through this and i really loved watching tiernan grow to trust and love people. and i like who she picked.
i think this is going to be a VERY polarizing book but hey, the best ones usually are.
(ps, pen doug if you're reading this i wouldn't mind being put on ur PR list into perpetuity love u ok bye) -
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family first! so heartwarming a beautiful story of family bonding in the wilderness 😊🥺
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4.5 Stars
I don't really know how exactly to go about discussing this book as it doesn't really fit in any of the prescribed boxes (or tropes) in which we romance readers like to shove things.
It's just not that simplistic.
There are a lot of layers here...and to say it's a "step-brother/sister" or "reverse harem" romance - or any of the possible labels one might slap on this thing - and it kind of is some of those things - it's also not really any of those things either.
And yes, I realize how confusing that sounds.
This book definitely won't be for everyone, even previous fans of Penelope Douglas (even PD will tell you that herself in the author notes at the end of this thing - which are SO worth reading, by the way). There are elements in here that are just hard limits for some people - which I understand and respect.
And while I definitely respect and understand those limits, I also encourage anyone on the fence to give this a try if they feel so inclined.
I really enjoyed this. The dynamics between all the characters is so magnetic and tangible. And PD is a master at setting the scene and the characters...and then holding back just the right amount of information and detail for our minds to fill in the gaps in a way that makes it more powerful than if she had just laid things out for us.
Not everyone who gives this book a shot is going to like it, it's just not possible. As with any book, really. But I'm so glad I am one of the ones who did and I commend Douglas for following her writing arrow and taking risks. -
TW: *Sexual Assault, death of a parent, emotional manipulating, assault* there will be mentions of these in my review.
There will also be spoilers in this review, take care
Let's play a game, shall we?
I like to call it 'take a shot every time there was a red flag' 🚩
Jake
🚨Threatened to hit her
🚨Hella possessive
🚨Lusted and *nearly* had s*x with a minor
🚨Kept hurting her when she told him to stop
🚨 is way too old to be having s*x with her
🚨 emotional abuse
Kaleb
🚨 Literally tried to r*pe her three times
🚨Hit her multiple times
🚨Hella possessive
🚨Stole her panties (not cool my man)
🚨locked her in her room
🚨has s*x with her while she's asleep
🚨Throws her birth control pills away
Noah
🚨emotional abuse
🚨threatens to get her pregnant so she can't leave
Terrian(ik that's not how you spell her name and idc)
🚨Hopped like a damn bunny from each family members beds each night
🚨 lusted after her uncle
🚨 got with the man who r*ped her and emotionally abused her
So I guess I'm dead from alcohol poisoning now :)
right, so into my whole problem with this book. spoiler alert: its a lot.
literally everything in this book was a mess. First before i get into theromanceabuse lets me say one thing. All the three men in this book are related to the mc in some way and form. Jake is her uncle and a decade older than terry. Noah and Kaleb were her cousins.
Right with that out of the way lets dive right in
Okay so from the very start of the book Terry is attracted to her uncle Jake. And what we can gather so does he. Because when she is a minor he nearly has sex with her.
can we point out the multiple problems with that
1. She is a MINOR
2 he is her UNCLE
3. they live in a house with Jakes two sons and he does it at the kitchen bench
And then this mf sons Kaleb is a walking glowing red flag. He is the worst. when he first met Terry he literally r*ped her.
and then when someone was saying how violent he is she thought: "Kaleb isn't like that"
And then as soon as this bish Terry turns 18 shes like hell yeahh i can fuck all my abusive hot af relatives
someone get this girl a therapist
And then Noah says "I wanna fuck my fathers little whore"
Im sorry what sir? *cough*daddy issues*cough*
And the amount of emotional abuse in this book was astronomical. I can't tell you all of it because that would be such a long list but here are some of my highlights:
1. Someone (Kaleb) stole all of Terrys panties. Joe Goldberg is that you?
2. Noah tells Terry that he's the only one who hasn't hit her but he's the only one who shes not interested in?
Sir you were there when he was hitting her and i didnt see you stopping him. Stop with the feminist act we see through your shit.
3. Noah threatens to pump Terry full of his swimmers to keep her there so she can't leave.
You just wait till terry builds an army of your children and they kill you in your sleep lmao
4. Kaleb locked Terry into her room and did not let her out and another time he hurt her so much that she ran away. Kaleb needs to go to rehab and just never talk to women again because no one no matter how horrible deserves someone like him.
5. And my absolute favourite is Terry sleeping with every guy in that house and being weirded out why they are so jealous of her sleeping with his brother/son/father.
But what really pissed me tf off is how good PD is at writing smut because I really started to enjoy it and started to like Kaleb for a little while. I had to take little breaks and talk to myself and say:
"Zoe. remember he is a horrible person he emotionally abuses her, sexually many times too, he wants and does hurt her many times these are small spurts of niceness don't like him we hate him"
Overall I really ate this book and nothing like this should be romanticized.
People who have been SA have severe ptsd. This book tells people that it is okay and that you should get with the person who SAed you. That is totally not okay SA can ruin lives and you have put it in a romance book. I am disgusted.
I don't recommend this book at all, none of this behaviour is romantic it is borderline abusive.
I know this went from fun to serious but i feel that this needed to be said.
Thank you for reading this review
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can y'all just imagine the awkward family dinners 😅
now first of all, i really went in this blind. so blind that when i heard a male character was gonna have two sons, i though that said sons were children... now color me surprised when i finally realized that those two sons were grown ass men and i walked into a reverse harem type of situation.
personally, i don't like sharing because im selfish and i just don't believe a super-duper alpha, possessive type of H would even be down for sharing/threesome, but honestly, this book is really good. the writing, plot, the setting, character development (NOT romantic development)? A+. and this book was H-O-T, HOT. no joke. P. Douglas is so good with creating tension and writing steamy scenes so kudos to her.
and why would i not be intrigued by a h who gets stuck in the Colorado mountains with her step-uncle and two step-cousins?? i mean...
taboo + age-gap + 3 alpha men = GREATNESS
but why only 3 stars? well...
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what i didn't like (SPOILERS !!!):
↠ lack of romantic development with Tiernan's endgame.
this really did disappoint me. it would've made more sense if she actually ended up with the person she spent most of the time with in a romantic way (Jake). Her romantic development with Jake was so good and filled with tension from the start that it did not make sense AT ALL for her to be with the other two but, ya know, plot and all that.
but did i ship Tiernan with her endgame? ...yes.
why? because i have a weakness for the silent type of H's
but honestly, the last 30ish % should've started in the middle instead of at the end so there were more scenes with Tiernan and the guy she chooses. and i actually wanted to see more from Kaleb too. i thought he was the most interesting out of all the H's.
i believed in the H's love for Tiernan but i NEVER believed in Tiernan's love for the main H because of the lack of development and the fact that she never felt bad about sleeping with his brother and father?? like, she didn't even think that was weird, she was like meh.
↠ the whole Noah situation.
i really would've been happier if they stayed platonic and they actually just acted like step-cousins. i didn't really believe in their "romantic development". i think it just happened for the sake of the story and smut aka threesome scene. but hey, that's just me.
↠ the ménage à trois.
OK. first of all, i thought this scene was actually hot. second, i'm not a prude and i've actually read some of the other threesome scenes by P. Douglas (
Corrupt &
Kill Switch) and thought they were all great, sexy, and all that. but my main problem with these scenes is that IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. it doesn't make sense for the character and it doesn't make sense for the story.
did that Kai, Michael and Rika scene make sense? no.
did that Will, Winter and Damon scene make sense? HELL NO.
apparently these threesomes happened for all the characters to heal and connect but it just really bugs me since the H's are extremely possessive but apparently they're down to share their women with their best friends/brother...
why was Kaleb even down for the threesome especially when it's WITH his brother and the woman he supposedly "loves" when he's apparently so "possessive". the reason might've been to hurt himself and withdraw but it was never really explained fully or even talked about.
↠ is Jake really okay?
apparently he is because he apparently forgot the romantic development between him and Tiernan so quickly that he didn't mind or care that she basically kinda cheated on him with his sons? at the same time??
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but anyways, can we talk about that Jared Trent easter egg?! i just about died when i saw my favorite P. Douglas hero's name.
i still really did like this book despite my dislikes.
but am i gonna read another reverse harem? eh... no. sorry, but i really am that selfish and i don't like sharing.
but am i down to read more about the H's who didn't get their happy ending here? hell yes. -
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🎧 4th Read, Nov. 2021 — 5 Stars
I’m praying HARD for A Noah Book. He deserves to have his story told.
🎧 3rd Read, Oct. 2021 — 5 Stars
Yo, quit harassing/shaming me for loving and reading this shit multiple times.
This book’s become more than just a guilty pleasure. I love the way it made me feel when I was reading it. I’m NOT talking about the smut. There are scenes and passages that just hit me right in the chest. I don’t know if you get what I’m talking about, or if you at times feel it too. But sometimes when I’m reading something that (emotionally) affects me, I get this stinging sensation in my chest like a heartburn or some shit. I get that a lot from this book, and I like it.
I’m not saying the book isn’t problematic, but I also happen to think it’s a literary masterpiece and the author who wrote it a genius; for not only is it complex, but it’s also classy, believable, and brings forth an array of emotions. If you choose to see it only for its wrongness, and if you think it’s garbage and disgusting, that’s on you. You’re entitled to your opinions, just as I’m mine. What you’re not entitled to is telling ME what to read and not to read, what to like and can’t/mustn’t like.
Tis the last time I’m explaining/defending myself or I swear God help me!
[2nd Read]
Dec. 2020 — 5 Stars
My alter ego and her inner slut is thrivinggg. Believe it, this is one of my favorite books of 2020. Yes, we love me some sexy, juicy, spicy, saucy hanky panky debauchery.
To say I’d been dyyying to get my hands on the audiobook and re-read this since January would be an understatement. So, it’s sad to admit that the audio wasn’t as good as I’d hoped it would be. Idk, the experience was just not as intense as reading the book conventionally.
It could be because I listened in double speed. I’d say it was because I didn’t vibe with the narrator(s). Most of the time, I couldn’t tell the difference apart between her delivering the inner monologues and her actually reciting the dialogues. Audiobook wise, it’s 3 to 3.5 stars.
Aside from that, I loved the story still. Every titillating, smutty, lascivious bit. I also still shipped . Not because they made sense, but they were perfect for each other. My heart went out to because he was just so . . . good or the least fucked up and he deserved better.
I’d remind you to read the
bonus scenes in PD’s website in case you’re interested. One of it is in ’s POV, and I think reading it helps you get to know him more and shows you the side of him the book couldn’t but you’ve always wanted to see.
This is probably the only book of its kind that I (was, am, and will ever be) obsessed with as I typically tend to stay away from anything ménage or reverse harem-ish.
(Read as an Audiobook)
[1st Read]
Jan. 2020 — 4.5 StarsI’M SORRY FOR ANYONE WHO COULDN’T HANDLE THIS, BUT THIS BOOK IS IT FOR MY GUILTY PLEASURE.
Someone call the fire department because I need some cooling down! By the devil! That was one heck of a ride. My my the heat… and the feels… oh the feels! Whew, this book is hotter than hell and wilder than my wildest fantasy.
Following the sudden deaths of her parents, seventeen year old Tiernan de Haas is set to live with her father’s stepbrother and only living relative Jake Van der Berg and his two sons, Kaleb and Noah. Hidden in the mountains of Colorado and miles away from civilization, Tiernan, who grew up with wealth and her parents lack of affection and guidance, soon discovers that home is not a place. It’s a feeling. As lines begin to blur and boundaries start to get crossed, Tiernan finds herself at a crossroad where emotions are clawing at her heart and demanding to be set free. Which one of them will she end up falling in love with? Who will get to keep her?
“Something about this house, these people, lend credence every day to what I always knew I needed. Not sex. Not a guy. Just a place. Somewhere or someone to feel like home.”
My favorite aspect about this book is undoubtedly the setting. I love the idea of living in a secluded area near the wilderness, and this book captures that ambiance perfectly. It’s so vivid that you can feel it with all your senses. It seems so mundane, but it’s also blissful and commendable seeing these characters go about their everyday life doing all kinds of domestic chores from cooking meals in the kitchen, to hunting in the forest and feeding livestock at the barn. Gah! I want nothing more than to teleport myself there and never leave the place. We don’t have winter here where I live, and reading this book has made me feel like I’ve lived vicariously through it.
“Jake was holding onto his past and punishing himself, just like me. Noah had no one to talk to, just like me. Kaleb struggles to connect, because of his pain of being forgotten by someone who should’ve loved him enough never to forget. Just like me.”
The characters in this book are an absolute treat to read. You feel for them despite their undesirable traits and inexcusable behaviors. It’s beautiful seeing Tiernan’s transformation from someone who’s always lonely, empty, and not used to having people care about her into someone who grows to appreciate, trust, and love the people around her. You can say it’s misogynistic or whatever, but I have no problem with the Van der Bergs being possessive and protective of Tiernan.
The different types of relationship in this book are so blurrily intertwined that I wasn’t sure what these characters meant to each other. Lust, love, family, best friends, lovers? They’re all tangled into one. And because these characters are not afraid to explore themselves and push their limits, they keep you on your toes. You’ll never know what’s going to happen. I do agree that the development of Tiernan’s romantic relationship near the end of the book is quite rushed. Some say it’s unbelievable and insta lovey. But let me tell you where I stand on this,
The book is told from multiple perspectives of all the four main characters, though it’s mostly just Tiernan’s. While her POV certainly helps understand all the characters, it’s a little bit challenging to connect with one of the Van der Bergs considering his “limitation” and that he has the least interaction with Tiernan. I would’ve liked to have gotten more chapters from their POVs. Strangely enough though, this character also wound up to be the one I rooted for the most.
The steamy scenes in this book are one of the most erotic and intense I’ve ever read. One of it honestly was really disorienting for me because there were a lot of motions going on. Obviously if it were up to me I wouldn’t let the smut get this far . However, considering the nature of this book, extreme as it may be, I think it’s also fitting. Not to mention, I appreciate the author being so free with her words and painting something that most see as negative to be liberating and empowering.
“My home is where you are.”
CREDENCE might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is mine. Read this book if you’re seeking for an exceptional, thrilling, and treacherous taboo forbidden romance read with some age gap theme and reverse harem feel to it. Make sure you leave your prejudices and beliefs at the door to fully immerse yourself in it. This book will have you reeling by the end. It’s dark, sexy, romantic, heartbreaking, unconventional, and suspenseful. Mixed with complex characters, atmospheric setting, and the author’s alluring story telling, this book will guarantee passage to one of the wildest (and most uncomfortable) rides you’ve ever had in your reading life. -
it's the pedophilia✨ for me
idk why PD insists making their female mcs underage (for at least the first part of the book) and at this point i'm too afraid to ask.
i'd beat up uncle jake for free but you will have to pay me a considerable amount of money to finish this
every male character in this is disgusting, and i have only met two out of three. i hope the reason is because the third one is in jail where uncle jake will follow
from the insinuation that he will keep her locked up in the house:
"Maybe", he taunts. "Or maybe I'll decide that you'd benefit from some time here and that you can't leave after all."
"I'll be of age in ten weeks." "We'll be snowed in in eight." And he laughs."
to his and his son's creepy obsession with her smiling - girl lost her parents, just shut up:
"You have a pretty smile. If you stay, I'll make you smile some more."
"I wish she'd smile."
to just the general vibe that these two adults (one in his forties, the other in his twenties) see this seventeen year old as a piece of meat and are just counting the days until they can finally legally fuck her:
“So, when do you turn eighteen?” Noah asks."
"I stop, an image of Tiernan in the backseat of some car—sweat on her face, hair sticking to her cheek, eyes closed, breathing hard—pops into my head."
"She better not. I’m not supplying this town with new pussy."
"If for no other reason than to burn off my exceeding supply of frustration with her father. To make her work off his debt to me. To fuck up her life just a little bit. To make her… She wets her pink lips, and my breath catches for a moment. If I were a worse man..."
there is also this scene where she unbuttons a shirt she is wearing in front of dearest uncle jake - mind you, she is wearing a whole ass t-shirt underneath - and he is like "She should be doing this in the privacy of the bathroom."
the only reason she should be doing this in the bathroom is because he is a disgusting creep who sees his teenage niece as a sex object. he is one of those people other family members would tell their daughters not to wear shorts around cause the entire family just knows he masturbates to the thought of underage girls in the shower.
mind you i am only 16% in but shall we make some predictions?
- it's a whole ass ten weeks until her 18th birthday - no one can wait that long. uncle jake is already thirsting after some teenage 🐱, there is no way he won't at least try to do something. and if not him then one of his twenty year old sons
- at least one of them is going to r*pe or sexually assault her in any way shape or form, i mean, "It does get boring in the winter... when the beer runs out."
- she's probably going to fall for tall dark and handsome - so the dude i haven't met yet. who will probably do something to her that's at least questionable if not full on jail worthy
there is no way i'm wrong about those predictions so consider this read. dnf @16% -
Penelope Douglas: Expect the Unexpected.
She pens astounding, jaw dropping stories with tongue-in-cheek bravado and exhilarating narration which keeps the mercury rising
Devilishly Divine, Passionately explosive and deeply explorative of all the complexities of human relationship scenarios, she introduces the Van Der Berg men in all their manly glory. Residing up in the mountains of Chapel Peak, Colorado, they're rugged and handsome, living in seclusion. They haven't had a woman live with them for years, almost animalistic, they eat, mate and fight.
but peace in their tostesterone haven is soon sent in upheavel as their orphan cousin, Tiernan De Haas comes to live with them. I have to mention something here, Pen's heroines have a commonality, they're young but have chutzpah, their physicality contributes to their beauty as much as their character which is very attractive. Tiernan displays an amazing range of sensibilities. She's forlorn, colorless and vapid to begin with, but soon develops wings like a butterfly and finds her place in their home. Her multi faceted personality gets too big to be contained in the House so she sets off to find herself.
“At some point, you started denying yourself anything that made you happy. Out of spite, maybe? Or pride? Candy? Toys? Pets? Affection? Love? Friends?
“You’re going to look in the mirror at the seventeen-year-old girl in a fifty-year-old body and realize you wasted so much time being devastated at how those fuckers didn’t love you that you forgot there’s an entire world of people who will.” **heavy**😵
Pen is also partial to Bad boy Assholes, a weakness of taboo forbidden trope readers. Jake, Noah & Kaleb are bursting with unharnessed sexuality, at logger heads most of the time, scattered and nursing broken hearts at all times. A triumvirate of pulse pounding magnetism and in walks in Tiernan. They become her would-be nemesis - "The Storm, The Whirlwind & The Earthquake"
“When the world feels small, nothing can hurt you. “But then you realize you’re the only one who fits there in that small world, and being alone feels worse than not feeling safe.”
One HAS her, One WANTS her but HE..... He will KEEP her!
There's a FOURTH entity that plays an important part in it all- The House At The Peak
It's represents different things to all 4 people. it's refuge for Jake, it's a prison for Noah, it's a hideout for Kaleb but it's a retreat of sorts for Tiernan. Pen puts all of them in a house, cuts them off from the world and covers them under a huge, thick tarp of snow, till the warring passions illuminate it up from within. It gets warmer, hotter, bursts with fireworks, fills with banter and laughter, sounds of work tools mix with panting breaths, hammers on nails and slaps on skin intermingle, running showers and orgasmic moans resonate and it becomes a Home: A feeling, not a place
I have to mention A particular scene here almost in the middle of the book. It's a very physical scenario, senses start to tingle which triggers a mindbending kiss. But What is a scorching, Panty incinerating scene suddednly stops, Turns, Flips and nose dives straight into the abysmal depths of git wrenching emotions. Lust dissolves into tears, moans turn to sobs and I'm all agog at Pen's talent & magnitude of sentiments of the scene before me... !!! 👏👏👏
It's a Perfect storm of connection. Tiernan is a smart girl, she gives all 3 what they're missing from their lives. She's a kindred spirit for all 3 . Acknowledging their existence, their struggles and their silence and in turn she gets to Belong
And of course you cant have all that heat and not have an outlet, some of the HOTTEST SEX I've read...ever!! Legit panty scorcher, set your kindle on fire, B.O.B to the rescue scenes🔥🔥
“The notches go all the way to the buckle,” I point out. “I’m flattered, but my waist isn’t that small.”
Noah leans in, whispering, “But your wrists are.”
Hormones swell up like a rushing creek, gathering momentum and soon they burst forth in a definite roar and unstoppable force like a waterfall.
And the FEELS are what will drown you, devour you, subsume you from head to toe till it's white out of acute pain and miserable grief. I've cried bucketfulls of #HornyTears and curled up in a ball
“We were forced together and shit happened.My only wrong-step was falling in love with one of them. ”
Open all the windows and doors of your mind before you start cause you'll be Breathless soon, gasping, groaning, moaning and you'll need to stop and take deep breaths often..but pray continue. You're in for the ride of your life!!
Enjoy the magnificience, the power of the fall but go take a peek behind it, there's a hidden cave decorated with beautiful sentiments drawn on the walls, it's a tunnel of warmth and love.
Get soaked and soak up the love
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My mind is reeling!!! Penelope Douglas has blown me away. Wow. I just finished the epilogue and acknowledgments (yes I read those 😂) and I’m... speechless. PD has written a book that will blow your expectations of what kind of romances she can write out of the water. I truly believe she improves on her craft and writing with each book she puts out, because it shows. Credence is nothing like her previous romances - or romances in general - yet it’s EVERYTHING. (Don’t worry, there is an HEA and it’s so, so lovely. The ending almost made me tear up.) The story is emotional, heartbreaking, erotic (let me tell you.... you ain't seen NOTHING yet when it comes to filth from PD 🔥🔥🔥), and beautifully told - I loved the way it made me FEEL. I was addicted from the very first page and I never wanted to stop reading. I do have to warn people though - the content in this is not for everyone, and that’s okay. It gets a little dark, a little taboo, and a lot kinky. Credence FOR SURE will take you out of your comfort zone. I might be adding more of my thoughts soon but oh my god GET READY for this wild, emotional ride of a read! ➡️
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DNF @ 50%
I’ve been reading this book for a couple days now and I just can’t continue it anymore. I read this because I really enjoyed Birthday Girl it’s one of my all time favorite romances and I was curious to see what this author would do next, and I really love taboo romances... but this book was a bit too much for me. It was one of the smuttiest books I’ve ever read to the point where I was extremely uncomfortable. Not only that but the lines of consent are really blurry and her love interests act like fucking bullies in this book. I am a huge fan of hate to love romances but this ain’t it....
In this story we follow a girl named Tiernan who’s family recently just died so she’s going to live with a step Uncle and his two sons in the mountains. She is not related to any of them and she develops romantic relationships with all of them. Jake was an okay character, I actually kind of liked the son Noah, but the son Kaleb is so freaking annoying. He acts like a wild animal neanderthal and he’s the main issue I had with this book. He doesn’t understand consent at all and the way he was bullying her did not sit well with me. He reacts violently to everything and it’s unacceptable. Front the first scene she meets Kaleb he nearly fucking rapes her and I knew I wouldn’t like him from that moment on. I don’t know how Tiernan puts up with these men and their (mostly) misogynistic ways.
Also this book felt very Twilight to me for some reason, I couldn’t really figure out why but just the mood of it I guess. But just a lot more sexually graphic and vulgar than Twilight. This book was just a crazy reading experience I’m not totally sure what I just read to be honest. 🙊🙈 -
I’m moving to the mountains because of this book!
I liked the premise of this book from the start and it did not disappoint. The story is about a girl named Tiernan who is from Beverly Hills and is the daughter of two famous people who just died. Her parents loved each other so much that they didn’t have room in their world for anyone else, including their daughter.
Tiernan grew up alone with nannies until she was old enough for boarding schools and and during school breaks she was sent to summer camps. Her parents died a week before she was to return to boarding school and just ten weeks before her eighteenth birthday.
Tiernan wants to get away from the spotlight of her parents deaths and she finds out that her fathers estranged stepbrother, Jake has become her guardian. Tiernan wants quiet alone time so she decides to go live with him and his two sons in the Rocky Mountains. I liked Tiernan a lot from the very start. She was obviously very neglected and lonely, but had more or less come to terms with the fact that her parents didn’t care.
Though Tiernan reflected on the fact that she did the Hollywood glamour stuff like shopping, fashion, makeup, to try to get her mothers approved. Tiernan is very quiet at first, rarely talking and when she does it is with as few words as possible. She goes to the mountains for a place where she can breathe and have some space.
Tiernan finds that Jake and his two adult sons, Noah and Kaleb, live on a up on a mountain and the road closes every year once the snow comes. So they are cut off from the nearest town for six months out of the year, which is fine with her since she just wants to be alone. However Jake and Noel don’t let Tiernan cut herself off from them.
There are a few small things I didn’t like about the book, but I won’t go into them because that would be giving things away. Despite those small things I really enjoyed this book. I loved the relationship between Tiernan and each of the guys. She had a different type of relationship with each of them which she really needed and they become a family.
Don’t get me wrong, this is not a nice little family drama story. It gets off the charts hot and steamy. I give it five flames out of five 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 for the sexy times and the romance. The characters are completely awesome, each in their own way. I would pay cash money to be snowed in for six months with those three guys. So would most of the girls in the nearest town!
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Update: Edited review to reflect the pronouns of the author.
Penelope Douglas is one of those authors where I always think the premise of their books sounds AMAZING but then I read them and I'm, like, virtually disappointed every time. Katee Robert is like that for me, too. I've liked some of their works, but most of the time, I read their stuff and just end up feeling seriously disappointed.
I bought CREDENCE at a thrift shop for a quarter, which seemed like a good deal. Especially since this seems to be the most controversial of her works. I remember when it first came out, my feed was filled with people DNF-ing and going "EWWWW" which obviously made me want to find out what the fuck was going on, because I'm a glutton for punishment like that.
Tiernan is the daughter of a film producer and his starlet wife. When they find out that the father has cancer, the mom and the dad both kill each other-- and they don't even leave Tiernan a note. They're just like BYE BITCH. And they Romeo-and-Juliet themselves. Which is in standard keeping with what we find out about their personalities. They're garbage people who resented their kid because she took time away from their One True Love, and as soon as she was old enough to be foisted upon someone else, they totally did that. Honestly, it was completely fucked up, and added a whole other layer to Tiernan's already-existing emotional damage, because she didn't really mourn her parents because there wasn't much to mourn.
In a last ditch effort at parental responsibility, we find out that her parents have dumped Tiernan off on her step-uncle, Jake, a mountain man who builds dirt bikes and lives off the land, swinging his cock around like an axe as he pees on everything he owns to mark his territory. Or something like that. The drive to his remote cabin is appropriately tense and suspenseful and actually kind of reminded me of TWILIGHT with the cold, privileged girl "exiling" herself to somewhere forested and remote and filled with hot guys. Except I'm pretty sure Bella didn't bang her uncle. Renesmee, on the other hand...
ANYWAY, Jake has two sons, Noah and Kaleb. Noah is honestly the only one I kind of liked because I'm a sucker for the fuckboy with the heart of gold trope. Kaleb was fucking creepy though. I felt like he crawled out of an Omegaverse book and nobody ever told him to go back home, so he just stayed in this book, creepily sniffing people's hair and sexually assaulting women and basically just making me want to slam the book closed every time he or Jake appeared.
So here's the thing. This book made me feel gross. It's the kind of taboo I really don't like. Parental guardians abusing their privilege? Gross. I can take daddy kink and stepbrother erotica, but girls or boys banging stepfathers or stepuncles or teachers?? NO. And what adds an extra layer of gross to this is that they're total misogynists. Like, when Tiernan fixes the fridge to please them and has to take out all the fridge contents and put them back, he doesn't notice she fixed the fridge; he just assumes that she wanted to, like, rearrange the contents like it was a dollhouse. There's all kinds of "not like other girls" type lines, and naturally, Tiernan is a gold star virgin that they all fight over, and some sexual stuff happens well before she turns eighteen, although they don't bang her until she is eighteen, thank GOD.
The brothers doubling up on her and the creepy uncle sexfests just really put me off. I think the book was pretty well written for the most part but I just wish it had been about her and Noah and maybe the rapey uncle could have been the bad guy that Noah saved her from in my ideal version of this story. The setting was great, the girl-on-girl hate was tiring, and the alphahole caveman dickslinging made my vagina pack up its bags and move to that iconic dry desert town known as Nopeville.
*insert kombucha meme here*
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UHHHH NO TENGO PALABRAS!
este libro no se lo recomendaría a cualquiera, ya que es re turbio y me van a juzgar JAJAJA pero de verdad revisen advertencias antes de comenzar el libro.
si lo leen no me hago cargo por la terapia que van a necesitar. -
'CREDENCE' Is a full length stand alone New Adult | romance novel by Penelope Douglas. Spoken in multiple POV's
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Holy shit this was f#cking hot!! And it just escalated in the background chapter by chapter and I knew either I was going to combust or my ipad would!! What an insane ride!! A ride I never wanted to get off!! This had very similar vibes to
The Wild so if you liked that you'll love this one. I never wanted this book to end!! It quickly went from a ★★★★★ read to my first favourite book of 2020!! 🙌That saying test it out before you buy kind of thing well lets just say our heroine tested all..Leave ALL your INHIBITIONS at the DOOR!! Because this book packs some heat and doesn't hold back!!
💦🔥 “What would you do without us?” Noah leans into my ear, whispering.
I lean my head back against him, closing my eyes.
“We take care of her pretty good,” he tells Kaleb, reaching around me to squeeze hot water over my breasts.
“She doesn’t need Daddy. Do you?”
Kaleb takes my leg, bringing my foot up to rest on his knee as he washes me. Running the cloth up my thigh, he dips inside, close but not there, and I moan” 💦🔥
One question remains!! Who stole her underwear!?! 🤔
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There's only one word I could describe to this book: DISGUSTING
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idk how to feel. chapter 23 tho… 🥵
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even porn needs a plot penelope
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DNF’d at 60% because I truly can’t handle this girl fucking her uncle and cousins, let alone at the same time. My pesky morals are rearing their ugly head again.
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I am nothing if not curious. At times is great but sometimes... it burns my eyes & soul.
But I will never learn to stay clear...now for this I didn't know much but I had an inkling...
It didn't stop me from reading...
Mea culpa!
Here is the deal; you will either enjoy reading this or really hate it...
My main issue is a couple of situations that are crossing a line of sexual consent that made me extremely uncomfortable.
Otherwise, I don't really care that these people will have awkward family gatherings.
I don't consider myself prude reader and I have read my fair share of taboo & forbidden storylines, and P. Douglas gave this a somewhat of a solid plot & character development. Still, I dislike sharing, triangles, squares, and all other shapes, menage with brothers, abuse...and at the end of it all call it love.
At the beginning of the winter when our almost 18 yo heroine comes to stay with her step-uncle, she losses her virginity with him...they can't keep their hands off each other...then she has a menage with his two sons.. falls in love with one...some things happen and then for weeks no one had any physical contact ...no sexy times... suddenly they can control themselves...
Of course, she is in love with the "bad son" and no more sexual healing for the other two... because that what it was right...she cured them and herself...
it is so obvious they all need therapy!!!!
and I need to stay away from books like this...
and everybody needs to stay away from Colorado mountains especially in winter because shit happens.... lol -
I have been sitting here trying to figure out how to rate this book for quite some time. I came to the conclusion that I am going to give it a five stars. Does that mean I agree with everything that went on in this book? Hell no!!! But that isn’t why I read. I read to escape...to be entertained... to feel different emotions�� whether it be good or bad. This book definitely did all of that for me! I went into Credence knowing there was forbidden aspects to the story, and that there was probably going to be content that pushed my limits.. and yes that happened for sure! I still was hooked to this one, and seeing as I read so much, I tend to find it hard to find books that I devour and can’t stop thinking about. I got that also with this story! So, five stars it is!
I will say that this story is not for everyone. The readers that don’t mind boundaries being crossed, and having their comfort level pushed, then this would be a book you will want to read. I thought Penelope Douglas did a wonderful job with her writing, and I was hooked on the story the whole way through. For myself, I am glad I read this!
I am choosing not to write a summary of the book or talk about the characters, because I don’t want to give anything away... and there are so many wonderful reviews out on Goodreads that gives a very clear idea of what Credence is all about. I do know one thing... I need to check out more of this author’s work! She has caught my attention!!! -
My biggest issue with Credence is not the taboo plot line. It was with
Theres also misogynistic vibes in this book. All three men routinely hook up with other women and even bring them back home while Tiernan is in the house. The moment a man even gives her a minute of his time, they are up in arms. Yes, the character coming onto her was a POS anyways but that's besides the point. The way she's referred to as a "slut" by Kaleb was not okay either.
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A romance that has over come all the expectations that I had with it's surprising yet, emotionally complex characters that will have you turning every single page wanting more...
I have not done a thorough review in such a long time... and it feels like coming home when reading a book by
Penelope Douglas, especially one that I was hesitant to read and dive into. The synopsis had me uncertain on whether I should give it a try, but none the less I did and I am glad I did as well because Penelope has yet not disappointed.
I am going to try to not focus on the story plot because if you want to know more about it, then read the dam book. I am going to focus on the character development that Pen always seems to have a way of complicating them yet also putting them together in a way that you would understand their emotional stand point of view. That's when we get to meet Tiernan and the gang that is Jake, her step-uncle, as well as his two sons Noah and Jake. All of them individually are very complex and unique in their own way. But what connects them together is the presence of Tiernan. Forbidden, yet still available, all three men learn how to gain self control and tenderness when meeting Tiernan. But it's all four who learn that struggling with some sort of loss, whether it's family loss, or physical touch, it's better to embrace it with the power of family.
Though some may say the way Penelope has portrayed for all four to gain that physical attachment they they truly crave for would be considered odd, I tried to look at it in an emotional point of view. Especially for Kaleb, the character that I felt struggled the most because of him lacking something that we use in our daily lives. And the connection that he has with Tiernan is one that definitely drew me more to the page and had me awake from 1 am to 4:36 am
Out of everything that comes from this book, what truly compelled me the most to continue reading it—because a lot of you who have read my book reviews in the past know that I am not a fan AT ALL of menage a trois, not a fan of sharing, nor a fan of voyeurism—but I am truly a fan of Penelope and the progress and freedom she has with her words. I adore that empowering attribute to it all and to not be afraid to reach a potential that can be seen as something negative. And hence why I will forever be a fan of Pen's and her constant amazement of exciting us all as her readers, and surprising us with so much more.
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Wow!
Excuse me....but seriously....
was there a deeper meaning in this story that I had to discover besides the obvious?
Hmmm I don't think so.
did the story have layers and different interpretations to different people?
Hmmm I don't think so.
was it difficult to understand?
were there any sudden twists?
did the ending left me speechless?
Hmmm I don't think so.
did I ugly cry?
or laugh my heart out?
did I connect with the characters?
would I remember them for many days, months, years to come?
Hmmm I don't think so.
Would I mind if especially the girl had different background?
hair?
eyes?
character?
Hmmm I don't think so.
So, what did I read? Why 5 stars?
1. Very well written erotica.
2. Very well developed story in order to add all the devious and deviant characters to the mix.
3. An interesting isolated environment.
4. Forbidden, taboo story, but without incest: One step uncle, two step cousins (his sons), one Mary Sue. All of them horny to the brink of desperation.
5. One too good to be true happy ending.
6. A bit of forced seduction/submission. A bit of rough sex. A bit of ménage.
So, if you like this kind of stories and you need your daily/monthy/yearly fix; do not hesitate to read it.
You will love it!
If you cringe only by reading the blurb and you are not familiar with this kind of make-believe OTT fiction because you tried it before and you hated it; better leave this book alone.
You will only make yourself suffer!
I read only for fun. -
3 stars
I finished this earlier today and honestly I’ve been thinking about it all day. Like, what do I rate it? Did I even like it? I didn’t want to stop reading once I started. For such a long audiobook I flew through it. It was one of those addicting books. I’m still not sure I actually liked it though. I can understand why the heroine ended up with the hero she did, but I’m not sure if I’m happy about it. I can definitely see why so many loved it, and I can also see why people didn’t like it. It was a wild ride. It was middle of the road for me, so I’m going with a 3 star.
Audio book source: Audible (Purchased)
Story Rating: 3 stars
Narrators: Sofia Willingham, Greg Tremblay, Carson Beck, Michael Pauley
Narration Rating: 4 stars
Genre: Forbidden romance (triggers galore)
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✧ ↝ 1 star
oh my god it’s finally over.
that was like 200 pages too long, we could’ve gotten the whole point of the book in way less time without all of tiernan’s talking about nothing and going on a car ride and feeding the horses and making breakfast etc etc we don’t care.
and all of that unnecessary drama at the end was such bullshit i had to skim all of it because it was so stupid i don’t even know what was going on that was necessary to have that much melodrama it was so dumb.
i was just waiting and waiting and waiting for this to be over so i can write a rant review (this :)) and read some new books i got that i actually want to read. and this book just would not end it had to have an epilogue too with a bunch of shit about how tiernan likes fucking people in tents while camping and she has a kid now or something and i couldn’t care less.
i don’t even know why i picked up this book, i wanted another punk 57 i guess because i actually loved that so i wanted to read more penelope douglas and instead i got ✨this.✨
the plot:
this book has the shittiest plot since den of vipers. i don’t even know what to say. seriously, can somebody honestly show me a plot?because all i see is this girl going to live in the mountains for a month with her uncle and cousins and idk about you but that seems like a pretty normal occurrence in everyday life so i’m not really sure what the big deal is. her parents have died too or whatever but i don’t count that as a plotline because it just isn’t. anyway, so tiernan isn’t very good with people and tALkiNg because of how her parents ignored her all the time when they were alive, so it’s a big deal for her to go live in the snowy cabin with her uncle and cousins (who thank god aren’t related by blood by the way), and can you guess what happens? hint: it’s a penelope douglas book.
and i’m all for smut. honestly, why do you think i read this shit? but for this to be a smut book and not much else, you can’t be having 250 pages of mundane activities and tiernan’s melodramatic thought processes. it was so boring. i can’t even describe how boring it was. nothing ever happened. and if you count the fire and fights and kaleb disappearing into the woods and all of that, i don’t even count that as things happening because it was all so random and made absolutely no sense whatsoever. it was so fucking stupid, too. i don’t like to read about territorial assholes who will shoot someone because they made conversation with their step-cousin. it’s dumb and annoying and i don’t like reading about it for over 400 pages.
and i knew that this would be longish, and that’s one of the reasons i didn’t read it at first, but then i thought, you know what? how bad can it be? (answer: bad), and it’s kinda controversial or whatever and ✨taboo✨ so maybe i’ll read it to see what it’s like. what it’s like is boring. there’s not even that many sex scenes either and the ones that there are are missing something, idk what, but they��re missing something. don’t not read this because it’s taboo or gross or stuff like that, i mean don’t if that’s not your thing, but definitely don’t read this for the sole reason that it is fucking boring and a waste of my time. but by all means, read this if you want, because one-star and rant reviews intrigue me as well.
the characters:
tiernan: there was one passage i highlighted where tiernan made some comment about “i may have the personality of a brick, but at least i don’t need anybody.” and she is absolutely right. well, about the brick part. 450+ pages and i swear this girl never shows an ounce of personality. i do not care to read about her random thoughts if i have absolutely no clue who she is. she is one of the main reasons i was so bored with this book. i had to read about this lady for so long and by the end of the book i barely knew her any more than i did when i hadn’t even started the book yet. she did really stupid things sometimes too which i don’t even care to get into, but she annoyed me so much. i get that the whole point of her was that she didn’t know how to act with people because of the neglect from her parents, so i did sympathize with her in that aspect, but even after she got past that point she was still incredibly boring and annoying. and when tiernan said she “doesn’t need anybody” i do not agree with that statement because the whole book she’d been talking about how much she needed those men and as soon as something goes wrong she’s back to being all cold and then when one of them hugs her or has sex with her again she’s like “omg 🥰 i need them they’re my fAmiLY.” and if you’re gonna “need” somebody like that, the least you can do is pick people better than them 💀. pretty much the only thing i liked about tiernan was her love for the animals, so there was that ig.
kaleb: someone explain to me why tiernan loved this rando psycho who she barely even knew. the moment they met he tried to have sex with her even though she said no multiple times and then he proceeded to be rude to her for pretty much the entire story after that, by throwing food at her, writing “slut” on her forehead, and just rude things that are certainly not how one is supposed to show love to another. this guy acted like a literal child constantly and he constantly threw temper tantrums for no reason. he also kept disappearing randomly and who even does that??? i know he had childhood trauma but that in no way excuses his behavior and i think he needs serious help. i would run for the fucking hills if someone told me i had to spend a winter locked in with this guy.
jake: jake was supposedly a big part of the book, at least at first, and then he all but disappears. he’s only part of the story when he’s fucking tiernan and then once that’s over, it’s bye-bye jake-y jake. and he was possibly blander than tiernan. he was so weird because he would try to be all authoritative and then break all of his rules but then yell at tiernan and punish her for stuff even when she’s 18 and not legally under his care anymore. it didn’t make any sense and confused me alot, i feel like in the beginning he was always mad about something or other and then by the end he was just no longer part of the “plot.” he also just wasn’t interesting to read about, and him and tiernan are just so bland together i don’t even want to talk about it it hurts me with the blandness.
noah: out of the 3 men, noah was by far my favorite. i felt like he was generally a cardboard cutout but at least he seemed like a decent person and was fun and funny sometimes. i honestly think tiernan should’ve ended up with him, he seemed to make her alot more happy than kaleb or jake did, and he had fun with her and made her laugh. i don’t ship them necessarily, but i feel like he was a good friend to her and that was a relationship that didn’t seem entirely awful all the time. overall i think tiernan was better suited alone, but if she had to pick between one of the 3 guys, i think noah was the best. but then maybe our
tastes are different and i just don’t like rude assholes. noah did confuse me sometimes though because he acted all tough and bad or whatever but then was really gentle and chill the next second so that was kinda weird, it’s like the author couldn’t decide exactly what they wanted him to be like.
the romance:
i don’t even know if i can call this an actual romance, because it just felt so forced and rushed. tiernan didn’t really love any of these people except for maybe noah as a friend. kaleb was an absolute psycho and he treated tiernan terribly for most of the story and then suddenly spoke to her at the end and it was so stupid, the whole thing was just so stupid with all of the fighting and make-up. she barely even knew him, he was awful to her, tried to rape her, and she ends up with him?? she seemed way more interested in jake at first and then noah than she ever did with kaleb. she went from hating him for most of the book to supposedly being in love with him and then hating him once they had an argument about nothing. then he came back and spoke to her or whatever so she stayed with him forever and had a kid with him. there was nothing for almost the whole time and then this forced bullshit.
the writing:
i have absolutely nothing to say about the writing because it was so unremarkable. i wasn’t really paying much attention to the writing style, it seemed just average and average even for a book like this. it wasn’t terrible or written like it had come from wattpad, but i don’t think it was amazing either. there were some sentences that could’ve sounded really good in different context, like the super emotional revelations did not fit with this book and it was stupid but in another book where that type of thing made sense it could’ve worked.