Title | : | Talent is Overrated: What Really Separates World-Class Performers from Everybody Else |
Author | : | |
Rating | : | |
ISBN | : | 1591842247 |
ISBN-10 | : | 9781591842248 |
Language | : | English |
Format Type | : | Hardcover |
Number of Pages | : | 240 |
Publication | : | First published January 1, 2008 |
Colvin shows that the skills of business: negotiating deals, evaluating financial statements obey the principles that lead to greatness, so that anyone can get better at them with the right kind of effort. Even the hardest decisions and interactions can be systematically improved.
This new mind-set, combined with Colvin's practical advice, will change the way you think about your job and career, and will inspire you to achieve more in all you do.
Talent is Overrated: What Really Separates World-Class Performers from Everybody Else Reviews
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Colvin set out to answer this question: "What does great performance require?" In this volume, he shares several insights generated by hundreds of research studies whose major conclusions offer what seem to be several counterintuitive perspectives on what is frequently referred to as "talent." (See Pages 6-7.) In this context, I am reminded of Thomas Edison's observation that "vision without execution is hallucination." If Colvin were asked to paraphrase that to indicate his own purposes in this book, my guess (only a guess) is that his response would be, "Talent without deliberate practice is latent" and agrees with Darrell Royal that "potential" means "you ain't done it yet." In other words, there would be no great performances in any field (e.g. business, theatre, dance, symphonic music, athletics, science, mathematics, entertainment, exploration) without those who have, through deliberate practice developed the requisite abilities.
Colvin duly acknowledges that deliberate practice "is a large concept, and to say that it explains everything would be simplistic and reductive." Colvin goes on to say, "Critical questions immediately present themselves: What exactly needs to be practiced? Precisely how? Which specific skills or other assets must be acquired? The research has revealed answers that generalize quite well across a wide range of fields." Even after committing all of my time and attention to several years of deliberate practice, under the direct supervision of the best instructor (e.g. Hank Haney, Butch Harman, or David Leadbetter) I probably could not reduce my handicap to zero but I could lower it under those conditions. Colvin's insights offer a reassurance that almost anyone's performance can be improved, sometimes substantially, even if it isn't world-class. Talent is overrated if it is perceived to be the most important factor. It isn't. In fact, talent does not exist unless and until it is developed...and the only way to develop it is (you guessed it) with deliberate practice. When Ben Hogan was asked the "secret" to playing great golf, he replied, "It's in the dirt."
Throughout his narrative, Colvin inserts clusters of insights and recommendations that literally anyone can consider and then act upon to improve her or his individual performance as well as helping to improve the performance of a team of which she or he is a member. For example:
1. Attributes of deliberate practice (Pages 66-72)
2. What top performers perceive that others do not notice (Pages 89-94)
3. Benefits of having a "rich mental model"(Pages 123-124)
4. Rules for peak performance that "elite" organizations follow (Pages 128-136)
5. Misconceptions about innovation and creativity (Pages 149-151)
6. How innovators become great (Pages 159-161)
7. How to make organizations innovative (Pages 162-166)
8. What homes can teach organizations (Pages 172-175)
9. The "drivers" of great performance (Pages 187-193)
10. How some organizations "blow it" (Pages 194-198)
Corbin provides a wealth of research-driven information that he has rigorously examined and he also draws upon his own extensive and direct experience with all manner of organizations and their C-level executives. -
This was surprising in some ways. The start of it is pretty much Gladwell’s
Outliers, the end is pretty well
Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us and the middle is about the least interesting part of the book. So, I guess I would recommend those two books rather than this one, except that there were some things about this that made the whole thing worthwhile.
I’m more convinced than ever that talent is overrated. What is talent? Essentially it is directly connected with performance – talented people are people who can perform well. So if you are trying to improve performance looking at the ‘innate’ abilities of the performer is probably the least interesting and least worthwhile thing to do. Surely the best way to improve performance is to look at what high performers DO and work out how to help weaker performers do that.
Much of this book is about the benefits of deliberate practice – which is, doing stuff that is not fun to do so as to be able to be successful at something. That is, piano practice or pumping iron or swimming at 5am. However, I think he overdoes the ‘this is hard and horrible but needs to be done’ stuff. The real lesson is that if it is meaningful and is directed at a goal the person wants to go in then it will not be horrible. Meaning is key here.
The bits of this I liked the most were the little anecdotes he says along the way. My favourite of these as the CEO who would find out who was going to be having a birthday on his visits and during his talk would tell staff, “It’s Jane’s birthday – sing her her song.” And they would all sing Happy Birthday! And then he would say, once they had finished. “Look, that was okay, but only just okay – I want you to sing it again but this time do it better.” And then there would be a pause while everyone tries to work out what ‘better’ means. I loved this story so much. Sometimes feedback isn’t just poor, it actually stops performance altogether. If you know you need to improve but have no idea how or what might help you are going to tend to give up.
His stress on learning is hard is the opposite of what I really believe – learning is generally effortless, practice may be hard, but if it is meaningful the ‘hard / easy’ opposition really doesn’t apply. I know that it is hard to feel more alive than after ‘getting it’. What gets called ‘hard work’ is often just play that requires lots of focus.
So, this was okay – but I would recommend the other two books first. They are both better written than this one (not that this one is not competently done) and much more engaging. -
This is a fun book that starts out in a vein similar to Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers". Later the emphasis of the book changes, and becomes a self-help book. For best performance, the name of the game is "practice", and not any old practice--it must be focused, deliberate, planned practice. This practice is not just for musicians; it is for every type of career, in business, sales, marketing, engineering--you name it, practice is what it takes. This type of practice can be mentally taxing, and very time-consuming--it normally takes years before a truly excellent performance is honed.
Colvin brings up the examples of Mozart and Tiger Woods. Neither of them was born with innate talent. They were both born to fathers who were both experts in their respective fields (music and golf), and started teaching their boys at a very early age. Lots of hard work and specially designed practice were the keys to their top-notch performance.
This may not be the best book on the topic--the subject is covered in a number of other books. But it is competently written, and for most part, it is engaging. -
This book is overrated.
After meandering for several chapters through what does NOT lead to high performance, Colvin finally gets around to arguing that the secret is "deliberate practice." This turns out basically to be Flow, so I would recommend just reading that book, which is by the scientist who originally described the concept, and is I think a much more interesting and useful work.
Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience
Beyond that, Colvin mixes apples and oranges in terms of what "talent" means. Winning at something isn't the same as having a talent; you can win by cheating and this happens in sports and business all the time. Another confusion is the difference between playing games and making great discoveries. While he gives anecdotes to show that you can train anyone to be a chess grand master, it seems absurd to argue that you can train anyone to be Einstein. Only a small part of the book is devoted to how to get better at useful tasks (like doctors reading X-rays correctly) and here his amazing insight is that experienced workers are better at this than new trainees. Wow! -
The takeaway from this approachable book is that a particular kind of practice--what Colvin refers to as "deliberate practice"--is what allows mere mortals (who include all of us, even Mozart, he argues) to painstakingly climb toward world-class performance in our respective fields. Colvin spends a few chapters arguing that talent, an inborn gift most of us assume is responsible for world-class performance, is a slippery concept whose cause-and-effect relationship to excellence hasn't been born out consistently in studies. Intelligence is important, but not in the way we typically think. Instead, personally designed practice regimens (which he spends the middle part of the book explaining), in which we are periodically evaluated by a mentor, teacher, or other source of insightful feedback, allow us to work on a skill set just beyond our current comfort zones. Much of this work is solitary, and physically and mentally taxing. Almost all of it is remote from the "game-time" exercise of the skill; that is, you don't become a great football player by playing football, but by conditioning in the particular set of skills you need during the game, and by reviewing your past performances with an eye to adjusting your practice routine. Excellence can be attained only by spending countless hours over many years doing this kind of grueling practice, Colvin argues. There are no shortcuts, and the most direct route is to start young and keep working maniacally as one ages. Excellence, he writes, is much more equal-opportunity than we thought, but most of us are not equal to its challenge.
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It’s a clever title, made me want to know more, but unfortunately the rest didn’t quite manage to expand on that idea well enough.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think it’s a bad book, and I do agree with its main principle, one has to nurture a talent for it to become something of importance. One has to find the weaknesses in ones performance and work on them in a deliberate way.
But I don’t think he managed to explain well enough how these world class performers do that. As it stands I thought it was a nice read, but is probably not going leave much behind because I already knew the idea of the born genius is severely flawed at best.
There is another thing that bugged me. At one point he explains how lifetime of products is ever shortening, like that is good thing. To me the throwaway culture we have built up is a problem, not something to put upon a pedestal. That has nothing to do with the subject of book, but annoyed me enough to ruin a whole chapter.
So to me this is an so so book, not bad, not great. Mostly a nice, unsurprising read. -
There are numerous good points about this book: good information based on solid scientific research; pretty good writing (not master level but close); cogent argument and so on. That being said, this book leaves several threads hanging: why experience does not necessarily led to mastery and what distinguish learning through deliberate practice from normal working experience.
As a Chinese, I am totally buying into this because that's what I grow up with. And I think this book explains why Chinese-Americans are, generally speaking, doing much better than their American contemporaries: their cultural background help them to learn better not that they are naturally good at learning new stuff.
If I'm not completely biased by my Chinese root, then the ramification of this book is tremendous: we need a total transformation of our education system---learning is not just form fun, learning cannot be easy, devotion and good working habit matters more than god-given talent. Performance based tests like GRE and SAT are less essential as good teachers and devoted students. I recommend this book to any parent and anyone who is interested in self-improvement. -
Talent is Overrated was a super-interesting look into the topic. Previously taken as gospel truth, the author dismantles the conventional myth of "talent" here.
Author
Geoffrey Colvin is writer and public speaker. He is the author of the books:
Humans Are Underrated: What High Achievers Know that Brilliant Machines Never Will; this one, and
The Upside of the Downturn: Management Strategies for Difficult Times. He is also a Senior Editor at Large for Fortune Magazine.
Geoff Colvin:
Colvin opens the book with a great first chapter, setting the pace for the rest of the writing that was to follow. He's got a great style, and the book has a great flow. So, this one shouldn't have any problems holding the reader's attention.
The topic of so-called "talent" is an extremely interesting one. It's become commonplace that when you encounter someone who is really good at something, often the first thing that comes to mind (or said) is "Oh wow, you've got a great talent!"
You can play a musical instrument well? Talent.
You're really good at something? Talent...
But what if the entire concept of "talent" was incorrect? What if there was no such inherent concept as talent? At least as it exists in its current paradigm. What then could be responsible for the competence of high-level performers??
Before the author explains his theory of what high-level performance is, he identifies what it is not:
• It isn't experience. Not only are we surrounded by highly experienced people who are nowhere near great at what they do, but we have also seen evidence that some people in a wide range of fields actually get worse after years of doing something.
• It isn't specific inborn abilities. We've seen extensive evidence that calls into question whether such abilities exist, and even if certain types of them might, they clearly do not determine excellence.
People who seem to possess abilities of this type do not necessarily achieve high performance, and we've seen many examples of people showing no evidence of such abilities who have produced extraordinary achievement.
• It isn't general abilities such as intelligence and memory. The research finds that in many fields the relation between intelligence and performance is weak or nonexistent; people with modest IQs sometimes perform outstandingly while people with high IQs sometimes don't get past mediocrity. Memory seems clearly to be acquired.
In short, we've nailed down what doesn't drive great performance. So what does?
Colvin unfolds a theory of "deliberate practice." Different from regular, unfocused practice, deliberate practice is a concentrated, focused effort that typically involves extended periods of repetition of sticking points, and performing just outside one's comfort zone. Sports performance coach
Dave Alred calls this space "the ugly zone."
He drops this interesting quote about high-level musical performers:
"You would expect, of course, that the students who went on to win places at the music school—and this was a school whose graduates regularly win national competitions and go on to professional music careers—would reach any given grade level more quickly and easily than the students who ended up being less accomplished.
That's the very meaning of being musically talented. But it didn't happen. On the contrary: The researchers calculated the average hours of practice needed by the most elite group of students to reach each grade level, and they calculated the average hours needed by each of the other groups. There were no statistically significant differences. For students who ended up going to the elite music school as well as for students who just played casually for fun, it took an average of twelve hundred hours of practice to reach grade 5, for example.
The music school students reached grade levels at earlier ages than the other students for the simple reason that they practiced more each day.
By age twelve, the researchers found, the students in the most elite group were practicing an average of two hours a day versus about fifteen minutes a day for the students in the lowest group, an 800 percent difference. So students could put in their hours a little bit each day or a lot each day, but nothing, it turned out, enabled any group to reach any given grade level without putting in those hours. As one of the researchers, Professor John A. Sloboda of the University of Keele, put it: "There is absolutely no evidence of a 'fast track' for high achievers."
The author mentions that even the traditional stories of the child prodigy are not as they may seem on the surface. He examines Mozart and Tiger Woods; noting that both were effectively coached very in-depth from a very young age. In Mozart's case, he hints that his father may have been responsible for some of the early works Mozart would take credit for.
He furthers his case against the concept of "talent," saying:
"Ericsson and his coauthors had noticed another theme that emerged in research on top-level performers: No matter who they were, or what explanation of their performance was being advanced, it always took them many years to become excellent, and if a person achieves elite status only after many years of toil, assigning the principal role in that success to innate gifts
becomes problematic, to say the least.
The phenomenon seems nearly universal. In a famous study of chess players, Nobel Prize winner Herbert Simon and William Chase (Ericsson's coauthor on the memory study) proposed "the ten-year rule," based on their observation that no one seemed to reach the top ranks of chess players without a decade or so of intensive study, and some required much more time. Even Bobby Fischer was not an exception; when he became a grand master at age sixteen, he had been studying chess intensively for nine years. Subsequent research in a wide range of fields has substantiated the ten-year rule everywhere the researchers have looked.
In math, science, musical composition, swimming, X-ray diagnosis, tennis, literature—no one, not even the most "talented" performers, became great without at least ten years of very hard preparation.
If talent means that success is easy or rapid, as most people seem to believe, then something is obviously wrong with a talent-based explanation of high achievement.."
Colvin examines many "talent" related topics here. The book's got a great bit of writing, for example, about neuroplasticity and age.
He ties a knot in the book with this quote, which I found to be well done:
"What do you really believe? Do you believe that you have a choice in this matter? Do you believe that if you do the work, properly designed, with intense focus for hours a day and years on end, your performance will grow dramatically better and eventually reach the highest levels? If you believe that, then there's at least a chance you will do the work and achieve great
performance.
But if you believe that your performance is forever limited by your lack of a specific innate gift, or by a lack of general abilities at a level that you think must be necessary, then there's no chance at all that you will do the work.
That's why this belief is tragically constraining. Everyone who has achieved exceptional performance has encountered terrible difficulties along the way. There are no exceptions. If you believe that doing the right kind of work can overcome the problems, then you have at least a chance of moving on to ever better performance. But those who see the setbacks as evidence that they lack the necessary gift will give up— quite logically, in light of their beliefs. They will never achieve what they might have..."
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I really enjoyed Talent is Overrated. The book was absolutely chock-full of super interesting facts, and the writing was very well done.
To be honest, this one really deserves a place on my
"favorites" shelf, so I'll add it to there.
I would definitely recommend this one to anyone interested.
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Insightful analysis of excellence and excellent performance in any field. The point of the book is in the title: the concept of "innate talent", when it comes to great performance, is overrated in our society, because the number 1 element that generates great performance is something else. Taking the term from a paper published years ago by someone else, the author identifies this "holy grail" of excellence in "deliberate performance", that means: whoever is ready to spend more time than the others outside of his comfort zone, and work constantly hard at improving his skills, will eventually excel. Perfect example, even though not quoted by this book, is Jiro from "Jiro's dream of sushi", a documentary about the pursuit of excellence.
I felt the concept could have been presented in less chapters and with less words, but I do think this book goes beyond the usual "et voilà: here is common sense dressed up as a great new discovery" business books (99% of them). It's not just "hard work" that generates the best performances, it's something more specific, deliberate, and painful.
Negatives: chapter 10 promises to look at "why" some people accept to go through terrible training processes and most people don't, but it doesn't even scratch the surface. There could be a gene that determines the willingness to excel, or it could be that you get that drive while living your life. Truth is, nobody will know until we better understand how the brain works. Also, the author never seems to have any understanding or empathy at all for the majority of human beings, who normally get into comfortable daily patterns and dont give a crap about constant learning and achieving excellence.
However, the liberating principle by which virtually anyone can achieve excellent performance is a breath of fresh air, in a time when still too many people, while watching their favorite NBA or football player on TV, turn around and say to their kids "Wow, that guy is a genius! Why didn't God give those skills to your daddy instead?? We would be millionaires now!". -
One of, if not THE best book I read this year. Some of this book supported theories I've read in other books (the "10-year rule" and "deliberate practice"), yet Colvin presented the ideas backed with more research. This book reinforced my beliefs on the benefits of coaching. Colvin also pointed out specific ways to apply this knowledge to business.
The last chapter, "Where Does Passion Come From?", has inspired me to add the books and articles from the "Resources" section to my reading list.
Few books have inspired to change my actions immediately. "Talent is Overrated" is one of them. -
An interesting read that argues that deliberate practice is the single most important factor in elite performance—far more important than genetics, "god-given" talent, or just the sheer volume of practice. Most studies I've seen indicate that human abilities are usually a mix of nature and nurture, and this book provides compelling evidence that, at least when it comes to world-class performance, nurture plays a much stronger role. Of course, genetics still set your limits (e.g., if you're 5-foot-nothing, no amount of deliberate practice will get you into the NBA), and this book doesn't tell us much about what it takes to achieve great—but not necessarily world-class—results. Nevertheless, it's a valuable read, and I personally found it inspiring to know that even the seemingly-superhuman abilities of the world's best performers are achieved primarily through a tremendous amount of hard work, and not just inborn ability.
Some of the key insights:
1. More practice, by itself, does not necessarily yield better performance. In fact, in some disciplines, it can actually hurt performance: e.g., doctors get worse at reading x-rays over time, auditors get worse at spotting fraud. The key to achieving elite performance is actually *deliberate* practice, which has the following features:
- It's designed specifically to stretch your abilities. Usually, you need an expert teacher or coach to do the designing.
- It allows for a high volume of practice. This book repeats much of the content from Malcom Gladwell's "Outliers" about needing ~10,000 hours or ~10 years of deliberate practice to achieve mastery. One interesting new tidbit was the idea of "10 years of silence": even for the world's best-known artists, writer, musicians, and poets, it almost always took at least 10 years of producing work that was largely ignored before they were finally able to produce something that got world-wide attention.
- It provides clear, rapid feedback. You must be able to tell if you're improving.
- It's hard and typically unpleasant work. If it was easy and fun, everyone would be doing it; if you can learn to tolerate this unpleasantness, it becomes a huge competitive advantage.
- There is task-specific practice (e.g., playing football) and general-purpose "conditioning" (e.g., weight lifting and running). People often think conditioning only applies to sports, but it's important in all disciplines. For example, if you are an entrepreneur, doing deliberate practice with arithmetic, physics, and economics can provide general-purpose conditioning for your mind that helps you succeed at building a business.
2. Understanding the role off deliberate practice is especially important in the modern world, as the level of performance in most disciplines is higher today than ever before.
- Sports records are constantly being broken. Just today, Eliud Kipchoge ran the marathon in under 2 hours.
- The amount of knowledge it takes to reach the edge of a discipline (e.g., a PhD) is greater than ever before.
- The complexity of music that top performers can play (e.g., violin concertos) and the ability of chess grand masters exceed anything that we've seen in the past.
3. The book presents many studies that show that in-born talent seems to play very little role in elite performance.
- For examples, studies of world-class musicians showed that the best performers showed no particular signs of excelling earlier in life, nor any ability to acquire skills faster.
- In fact, the best performers spent *more* time than everyone else practicing, and in particular, far more time doing deliberate practice.
4. The typical response to this is, "but what about Mozart?" It turns out that much of what we know about Mozart was a myth or misrepresented.
- Mozart did produce compositions at an early age, but his father was a composer who started training him at age 3, and it was the father who transcribed—and likely improved—all those early compositions.
- Moreover, none of those early compositions are considered particularly original or great; Mozart's 1st masterpiece (the 9th concerto) came at age 21, at which point he had been practicing for more than 18 years.
- The famous letter where Mozart claims to come up with entire pieces purely in his head, and then merely jot them down later, was apparently a total forgery. In reality, Mozart wrote, rewrote, tinkered, and edited pieces over and over again, just like everyone else.
5. Much of world-class ability comes from building a massive body of knowledge and the ability to access that knowledge quickly. This allows experts to see the world differently than non-experts.
- For example, chess grand masters are familiar with 10-100x more chess positions than non experts, so every time they see a board, they can efficiently catalog it in relation to all this knowledge. This is why they can play 20 chess games in parallel and remember what's happening in each one. It's not that their memory is better in general. In fact, studies show that while chess masters can memorize real-world chess positions far better than normal people, if you show them completely randomized chess positions, the memory of chess masters is no better than that of anyone else.
- Tennis professionals can return 150 mph serves not because their reflexes are that much faster than normal people, but because they can guess where the serve is going based on the opponents body movement, long before the ball is hit.
- The business world has found that general-purpose business leaders and managers don't really work. To be successful, you typically need to hire leaders with deep domain-specific knowledge.
6. The book then moves on to discuss what motivates the world's best performers to be able to do the intense amount of deliberate practice it takes to achieve greatness.
- The book repeats much of the content we know about on extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation, and how, somewhat counter-intuitively, extrinsic motivation can reduce creativity. Dan Pink's books do a better job of presenting this content.
- One new item in this book is the idea that some types of extrinsic motivation—those that reinforce intrinsic motivation—can actually bolster creativity. Examples: recognizing someone for their work and confirming their competence; constructive, non-threatening, work-focused (not person focused) feedback; rewards that provide more time or freedom to work on things you find intrinsically motivating.
- Another new tidbit for me was the idea of the "multiplier effect." One possibility for why elite performers are driven to do deliberate practice is that it's genetic. But another possible explanation is the multiplier effect, where, due to more or less random chance (e.g., due to a small genetic advantage, or being slightly more mature, or better parenting), someone performs slightly better at an early stage in life; the result is that they get praise, which is motivational; this leads them to practice slightly more; which leads to an even better performance the next time; which leads to more praise; and so on. So a tiny little advantage can be the trigger for a powerful cycle that gradually grows into a habit of deliberate practice. -
Well, I think I could have written this book and made it a lot shorter. 3 stars is perhaps low considering that the research was good... and that I agree with the author's findings. It's just that the conclusion was obvious. How do you advance to a world class at some skill? Malcolm Gladwell explained that in his book outliers; simply spend 10,000 hours at a thing. You'll become a master.
Colvin points out that many people spend years... 10,000 hours plus at a task, however they never achieve world-class mastery of their skill. What is the difference between these mediocre performers and their world-class contempararies? The difference here is boiled down to "deliberate practice". The kind of practice or training that focuses on individual aspects of a certain skill. Every sports practitioner and musician knows about this kind of practice as do I. Colvin makes a case for using deliberate practice in other fields as well, business and science. It's a strong argument and as a former musician, I found it easy to agree with his idea strongly... but he could have stated it in a single chapter. That being said, my review will save you the time of reading this book. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? (Deliberate) Practice! -
There have been a number of books lately that attempt to disabuse us of the myth of talent -- that some people are born gifted, like Mozart or Tiger Woods. When you look into the details of such cases, you almost always find a passionate parent, a good understanding of the field of expertise, and hours and hours of practice. Both Mozart and Woods had all of these. Colvin asks us to replace the idea that people are born gifted with the idea that anyone who's willing to put in the time can do wonders. He advocates the principle (developed elsewhere) of deliberate practice, which means focusing on the stuff you don't do well, and crunching it endlessly until you get better. Doesn't sound like fun, but then greatness rarely is. Even the Beatles put in thousands of hours of practice in German clubs, fueled by amphetamines, beer, and cigarettes, catcalled by the crowd, and occasionally hit with physical estimations of their abilities -- like beer bottles thrown by angry audience members. You get good by getting good. Get to work or give up and watch TV. It's your choice. An unpopular point of view, to be sure, for everyone except perhaps Tiger mothers.
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"Expanding on a landmark cover story in Fortune, a top journalist debunks the myths of exceptional performance." I think anytime I read that a book is an expansion of an article, I should just read the article. I liked this book but I think I could have gotten as much out of the short version. It's similar to Malcolm Gladwell's theory about how people need 10,000 hours of practice to become exceptional, which is something I think about a lot. This author, Colvin, talks about "deliberate practice" which is a specific kind of professionally designed, not fun, practice that creates world-class professionals/artists/performers. It helps to have dedicated parents to get you started on your skill early in life and you have to work ridiculously hard but Colvin's assertion is that most "geniuses" had/have a perfect combination of tutelage and hard work more than an inborn talent that creates world-class results.
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An important management book that tells you that deliberate practice is what makes successful people instead of talent. Talent is what you see on the forefront of all that hard work.
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I couldn't put it down...(although the sections devoted to acheiving world class excellence in the coprporate realm did drag ...revelatory of my lack of interest in the business of business). It is a very straightforward read: competent prose, a degree of it researh based,that provides insight into what separates those elite individuals at the very top of their chosen fields (golf, football,sales,music,chess,invention,chairmanship of mega corporations,comedy,physics,medical analysis, etc). Colvin's main point...talent is,overrated (title is the premise)!
The real secret lies in the concept of deliberate practice...for at least 10,000 total hours. Before you run out and begin your 20 hour a week,decade long regimen of practice...make absolutely sure you know exactly what subsets of skills are necessary to your endeavor...otherwise you're just spinning your wheels.It is not the practicing per se that is essential,it is the kind of practice you do. Tangentally,your prime years are probably between the ages of 8-18 (unless you are going to trump the genius /physicists of the world in their accomplishments). The role of parenting and,after that,the luxury of having world class mentors,coaches and teachers is a biggie,too...although you can get better at your obsession with age,which is a comfort to those of us that did not grow up in an ideal genius-producing environment,have a dad uniquely disposed and prepared for his role in raising a phenom (Tiger Woods) and are way past the age of 18. You'll also need that will-o-the-wisp called intrinsic motivation (Colvin does offer some interesting insight on the slippery psychology of that human trait).You might want to prepare yourself for the ugly side of this kind of pursuit of greatness (narcissism, ego centrism amd narrowness can play a role in your development of world class ranking....and probably,divorce.
As a Junior High teacher,I,somewhat quixotically, try to instill the Three "D's" in my students:Desire Dedication,and Discipline. Colvin's book gave me more food for thought on role these essential dimensions of the human psyche play in fostering greatness.
In his final paragraphs,Colvin states that: "Ultimately,we cannot get to the very heart of this matter; we cannot explain fully and generally why certain people put themselves through the years or decades of punishing, intensive daily work that eventually makes them world-class great. We've reached the point where we are left without guidance from the scientists and must proceed by looking in the only place we have left, which is within ourselves."
Good read for anyone that aspires to greatness,wants to be better at something, admires greatness,teaches or mentors,is in a leadership position, has children. -
Amazing book, after you read it, any limiting beliefs you have about innate abilities as an excuse not to putting in the required effort will disappear from your mind. You'll discover the truth of success behind the so called naturally "gifted" individuals such as Mozart or Tiger Woods. This book is really motivating to read, it reveals the correct mindsets on how to achieve mastery in a certain field and become a high performer. I highly recommend this book to you, it will open your mind to new ideas and give you understanding of the worlds highest achievers throughout history.
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(2.5?) Great idea, not-so-great execution. The first half was good, but I almost had to force myself to finish the second half. I would have appreciated more information on how to practice effectively and fewer anecdotes on how hard work pays off.
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Las estrellas dejan mucho qué desear a la hora de evaluar un libro. La manera en que tú interpretas 1, 2, 3, 4 o 5 estrellas probablemente será muy distinta a la manera en que yo interpreto 1, 2, 3, 4 o 5 estrellas.
Aquí va la «traducción» del sistema de estrellas de Ana al español:
⭐️ - Malo
⭐️ ⭐️ - Me costó terminar
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ - Bueno
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ - Muy bueno
⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ - Me cambió la vida / No pude soltarlo
Para saber más sobre cómo doy estrellas, puedes escuchar
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Quick, interesting, and memorable examples of how talent is overrated.
Colvin's take on the intrinsic motivation and deliberate practice needed for progress and achievement offers some insights and additional nuance to the public discourse around such topics. His work supplements similar pop psychology books like Flow, Epstein's Range, and Pink's Drive. While he never goes deep enough into what deliberate practice should look like, he also never makes big missteps or overstays his welcome. An easy if sometimes overly generic read.
Quotes
On years of experience and mastery:
"Extensive research in a wide range of fields shows that many people not only fail to become outstandingly good at what they do, no matter how many years they spend doing it, they frequently don’t even get any better than they were when they started. Auditors with years of experience were no better at detecting corporate fraud—a fairly important skill for an auditor—than were freshly trained rookies. When it comes to judging personality disorders, which is one of the things we count on clinical psychologists to do, length of clinical experience told nothing about skill—“the correlations,” concluded some of the leading researchers, “are roughly zero.” Surgeons were no better at predicting hospital stays after surgery than residents were. In field after field, when it came to centrally important skills—stockbrokers recommending stocks, parole officers predicting recidivism, college admissions officials judging applicants—people with lots of experience were no better at their jobs than those with very little experience." (Ch. 1, 0:05:22)
IQ as a head-start but increasingly negligible in the long-term:
"Even when performance does match up with IQ in a way we would expect, the effect tends to be short-lived. That is, even if high-IQ people do better than low-IQ people when first trying a task that’s new to them, the relationship tends to get weaker and may eventually disappear completely as they work at the task and get better at it. For example, a study of children who took up chess found that the strength of IQ as a predictor dropped drastically as the children worked and got better, and IQ was of no value in predicting how quickly they would improve. Many studies of adults in the workplace have shown the same pattern. IQ is a decent predictor of performance on an unfamiliar task, but once a person has been at a job for a few years, IQ predicts little or nothing about performance.
"None of this suggests there’s anything the least bit wrong with being smart if you want to succeed in business or anything else. Many of the most successful people do seem to be highly intelligent. But what the research suggests very strongly is that the link between intelligence and high achievement isn’t nearly as powerful as we commonly suppose. Most important, the research tells us that intelligence as we usually think of it—a high IQ—is not a prerequisite to extraordinary achievement." (Ch. 3, 1:39:45)
Features of great creators:
"The impression that emerges most strongly from the research on great creators is that of their enthusiastic immersion in their domain and their resulting deep knowledge of it. Since organizations are not innovative—only people are innovative—it follows that the most effective steps an organization can take to build innovation will include helping people expand and deepen their knowledge of their field." (Ch. 9, 5:54:30)
Achieving and maintaining top performance:
"Our insight into how it’s possible to maintain top-level performance into the later decades of life helps us understand those cases in which it doesn’t happen. Most people stop the deliberate practice necessary to sustain their performance. We can’t necessarily criticize them. It may be a completely rational decision, for example in the case of a pro athlete who has earned millions of dollars and has little to gain but much to lose, in the possibility of serious injury, by continuing to play. Businesspeople who get rich early may see no further reason to keep challenging themselves.
"More broadly, every high performer is continually making a cost-benefit analysis when it comes to deliberate practice, and as the years go by, the costs increase while the benefits diminish. Improving performance becomes more difficult, and the performer focuses more on just maintaining a given level; as even that become unrealistic, the performer seeks ways to compensate for the encroaching weaknesses. The hours required for all this remain punishing, and it’s easy to understand how elite performers may come to feel the effort is no longer worth what it produces. The key concept, however, is that for many years in a person’s life—more years than most of us believe—performance deterioration in our chosen field isn’t an inexorable process. It is, rather, a choice about how much effort we want to invest in our performance. As Karl Malone, the NBA’s second all-time top scorer, told the Los Angeles Times about aging athletes, “It’s not that their bodies stop, it’s just that they’ve decided to stop pushing it.” ( Ch. 10, 6:42:30)
Colvin offers nuance about Drive that
Daniel Pink's full book on the subject never addressed:
"In extensive research on what drives creative achievement, Teresa Amabile of the Harvard Business School at first proposed a simple hypothesis: “The intrinsically motivated state is conducive to creativity, whereas the extrinsically motivated state is detrimental.” It’s easy to see why she considered extrinsic motivation bad news; many studies showed exactly that. In one of Amabile’s own projects, for example, college women were asked to make paper collages. Half the subjects were told their collages would be judged by graduate art students; the others were told that researchers were studying their mood and had no interest in the collages themselves. When the collages were then evaluated by a panel of artists, those produced by the subjects who expected to be judged were significantly less creative. Other studies showed that virtually any external attempt to constrain or control the work results in less creativity. Just being watched is detrimental. Even being offered a reward for doing the work results in less creative output than being offered nothing.
"All these results were replicated many times. But other studies, going in other directions, were finding something else. Extrinsic motivators were of many types, not all of them controlling, and some of them seemed to enhance creativity. Specifically, extrinsic motivators that reinforce intrinsic motivation could work quite effectively. Like what? Recognition that confirms competence turned out to be effective. While the mere expectation of being judged tended to reduce creativity, personal feedback could actually enhance creativity if it was the right kind—“constructive, nonthreatening, and work-focused rather than person-focused,” in Amabile’s words. That is, feedback that helped a person do what he or she felt compelled to do was effective. Even the prospect of direct rewards, normally suffocating to creativity, could be helpful if they were the right kinds of rewards—those “that involve more time, freedom, or resources to pursue exciting ideas.” These findings prompted Amabile to revise her hypothesis: Intrinsic motivation is still best, and extrinsic motivation that’s controlling is still detrimental to creativity, but extrinsic motivators that reinforce intrinsic drives can be highly effective." (Ch. 11, 6:58:30)
This claim needs some nuance, but could be a counterargument to
David Epstein's Range
"[I]t’s easy to imagine how intelligence and other traits with a genetic component might trigger a multiplier effect, even if the significance of the genetic component is in dispute. After all, a small advantage is all it takes. We saw in chapter 3 that intelligence and other general abilities play a much smaller role in top-level performance than most of us believe, but even if intelligence isn’t the critical performance factor in many fields, a small intelligence advantage at an early age could still trigger a multiplier effect that would produce exceptional performance many years later. Clearly these traits would not be guaranteed to set off multiplier effects in every case. If the kid with the baseball advantage lived in a time or place where baseball was unheard of, he’d be out of luck, and we can easily imagine endless other scenarios in which some trait that could conceivably trigger a multiplier effect in one setting would produce no effect in another.
"The much more intriguing possibility is that events or situations having nothing to do with innate traits could also set off multiplier effects. An example that seems to occur quite often is what happens when someone begins training at an earlier age than others in the field. Many researchers have observed that as people start learning skills in virtually any field, they’re typically compared not against the world’s greatest performers in that field but against others their own age. Nobody considered whether the ten-year-old Tiger Woods was a threat to the top professionals; what mattered was that he was much better than other ten-year-olds. One way to get a very good shot at performing better than others of the same age is to start training earlier than they do (as Woods did), thus accumulating more deliberate practice. Standing out at any given age is an excellent way to attract attention and praise, fueling the multiplier, and it can be done without relying on any innate ability. It’s worth noting that studies of swimmers, gymnasts, chess players, violinists, and pianists show that the more accomplished performers started training at earlier ages." (Ch. 11, 7:19:00)
Two fundamental components of achieving top performance in your given field:
"What you want—really, deeply want—is fundamental because deliberate practice is a heavy investment. Becoming a great performer demands the largest investment you will ever make—many years of your life devoted utterly to your goal—and only someone who wants to reach that goal with extraordinary power can make it. We often see the price people pay in their rise to the top of any field; even if their marriages or other relationships survive, their interests outside their field typically cannot. Howard Gardner, after studying his seven exceptional achievers, noted that “usually, as a means of being able to continue work, the creator sacrificed normal relationships in the personal sphere.” Such people are “committed obsessively to their work. Social life or hobbies are almost immaterial.” That may sound like admirable self-sacrifice and direction of purpose, but it often goes much further, and it can be ugly. As Gardner notes, “the self-confidence merges with egotism, egocentrism, and narcissism: each of the creators seems highly self-absorbed, not only wholly involved in his or her own projects, but likely to pursue them at the cost of other individuals.” The story of the great achiever who leaves a wake of anger and betrayal is a common one.
"So what would it take for you to accept all of that in pursuit of a goal? What would you want so much that you’d commit yourself to the necessary hard, endless work, giving up relationships and other interests, so that you might eventually get it? Whatever it is that the greatest performers want, that’s how much they must want it.
"The second question is more profound. What do you really believe? Do you believe that you have a choice in this matter? Do you believe that if you do the work, properly designed, with intense focus for hours a day and years on end, your performance will grow dramatically better and eventually reach the highest levels? If you believe that, then there’s at least a chance you will do the work and achieve great performance." (Ch. 11, 7:28:00) -
If you haven’t read many books on the state of flow/deliberate training than this may be a decent stepping stone into that realm. Since I have read quite a number of them this book is more of a simple reminder on the studies surrounding it and how people utilize it. Overall decent read just not as deep as I’d like it to go.
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The title of this book should be 'Talent is Irrelevant,' as that's essentially the author's argument. I guess he wanted to hedge his bets, and he does grudgingly acknowledge (in the last few pages) that innate capacities *may* play some role in performance, particularly in regard to physical skills. But his constant assertion, which runs very much contrary to popular belief, is that there is no real evidence for innate or genetic abilities playing any role in the success of world-class performers.
What these performers do have in common is--surprise!--practice, and lots of it. Not just any practice, though; the key is what he terms 'deliberate practice'--the kind where you ruthlessly identify your weaknesses, then mindfully and persistently improve them with well-designed practice, then repeat that process for (ideally) many hours every day over a long period of time. It's the kind of practice that generally isn't any fun, which is why so few people do it in first place, much less stick with it over the long haul. The elite among us--those who are often seen as being touched by some 'divine spark,' somehow fundamentally more talented than us mere mortals--are simply those who have managed to stay in that 'deliberate practice' zone long enough.
The author cites luminaries mainly from sports and music--Jerry Rice, Tiger Woods, Yo-Yo Ma, Mozart--but his goal (as a writer from Fortune magazine) is to encourage business people to embrace the deliberate practice model. It's a worthwhile read for anyone, though (I'm a musician), even if it is the sort of book that can easily be boiled down to a few words ("Forget talent: just practice a lot, and practice well."). His point is that great performance is available to *anyone* who is willing to put in the work; I found that very encouraging, and his examples inspiring. It renewed my drive to make the most out of the limited practice time I have by focusing relentlessly on my squeaky wheels (I have a lot of them) and setting specific, attainable goals for myself, not just a general aim of "getting better," which is too vague and open-ended to get my butt in the practice chair with any kind of determination. For that alone, this book was well worth the time. -
Highly recommended book about how to achieve a high level of performance in any field or endeavor.
The author refutes the notion of talent and the idea that we are born with abilities and predispositions that allow to to excel in some areas (math, music, sports, etc) relative to others. The thesis of the book is essentially to prove the saying that "perfect practice makes perfect" and he builds on Malcolm Gladwell's idea in "Outliers" that you need 10,000 hours of practice to become an expert at anything. Colvin says you need 10,000 hours of perfect practice.
This book was a good mixture of anecdotes, common sense and scientific studies. The author would likely have a problem with some gospel principles like spiritual gifts and patriarchal blessings.
I listened to this book while running and on the bus over the course of three or four days and recommend it to anyone with an interest in the subject. -
This book was extremely inspiring for me. I can take ideas from Talent Is Overrated and apply it to almost every aspect of my life. I can apply it to my life as a career woman, learning new skills as a senior leader, all the way to the fitness journey I am currently on. It explores the idea that we can learn almost anything we set our minds to, and that perhaps the "talented" have really done just that! As someone who has never been naturally athletic, or graceful, or poised...This is great news to me. Talent Is Overrated also gives great advice on HOW you can develop these "talents" and keep them developed, such as going back to the basics of your particular skill periodically. I loved this book and will likely read it again when I feel like I need to "get back to the basics". Great read!
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ทำไมคนเก่งระดับต้นๆ ของแต่ละวงการถึงเก่ง
เค้ามีพรสวรรค์แต่เกิดเหรอ...บางคนก็ไม่นะ
และถึงมี
ไอ้สิ่งที่เราเรียกว่า"พรสวรรค์" แท้จริงแล้วคืออะไร เกิดขึ้นมาได้ยังไง
หนังสือเล่มนี้เจาะลึกในทุกแง่มุมของคนที่ประสบความสำเร็จระดับท็อป ว่ามีหนทางยังไงเกิดขึ้นได้ยังไง
แล้วให้คำตอบว่า (โดยที่แต่ละคนไม่รู้ตัว) สิ่งที่พวกเขาทำคือ การฝึกฝนแบบเจาะจง หรือ deliberate practice
ซึ่งไม่เหมือนการฝึกฝนทั่วๆไป
สิ่งนี้เราสามารถตามรอยได้ (ถ้าทุ่มเทมากพอ)
และบ่มเพาะให้ลูกหลาน หรือลูกน้องของเราได้
น่าสนใจมาก
เนื่องจากคนเขียนคงมุ่งเป้าให้เป็นหนังสือธุรกิจด้วย เลยมีบางบทที่เราอ่านแบบเบื่อๆ แต่โดยรวมถือว่าสนุก
มีเรื่องเล่าน่าตื่นตื่นใจเยอะมาก มีงานวิจัยทางพฤติกรรมศาสตร์สนุกๆ มาเล่าให้ฟังเพียบ
คนเขียนเป็นนักเล่าเรื่องที่เก่ง มีตรรกะดี ไม่ค่อยได้เห็นนักเขียนประเภท How-to มีความสามารถในการคิด-เขียนแบบนี้
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Impressive and loved this. The book talks about what it says on the tin. The key premise of the book is that talent is overrated and that each one of us has the foundations to build excellence into what we do and through hard work and dedication (nod to Money Mayweather). This talks a little bit more than the 10,000-hour rule and has some really interesting insights. I link this to some of the work I did at Gallup with strengths. The strengths philosophy says that we all have super highways of talent which turn into strengths once we start dedicating time to them through deliberate practise. Colvin also talks about the myelinisation of the neurones which is another huge area of interest for me when it comes to strengths, skills and talent. Well worth the read. Here are some of the best parts:
• Leopold (Mozart’s father) was well qualified for his role as little Wolfgang’s teacher by more than just his own eminence. He was deeply interested in how music was taught to children. While Leopold was only a so-so as a musician he was highly accomplished as a pedagogue. His authoritative book on violin instruction published the same year Wolfgang was born remained influential for decades.
• The Czech master Richard Reti once played 29 blindfolded games of chess simultaneously. Afterwards he left his briefcase at the exhibition site and commented on what a poor memory he had. Miguel Najdorf a polish Argentinian grand m/aster played 45 blindfolded games simultaneously in Sao Paolo in 1947.
• Solitary practise was number 1 with a bullet. (The game is won or lost far away from witnesses as Muhammad Ali once said). They all knew it but they didn’t all do it. Though the violinists understood the importance of practise alone, the amount of time the actual groups practised alone differed dramatically. The top 2 groups the best and better violinists, practised by themselves about 23 hours a week on average. The third group the good violinists practised by themselves only 9 hours a week.
• Top performers repeat their practise activities to a stultifying extent. Ted Williams baseball’s greatest hitter would practise hitting until his hands bled. Pete Maravich whose college basketball record still stands after more than 30 years would go to the gym when it opened in the morning and shoot basketballs until it closed at night. An extreme and instructive example is golfer Moe Norman who played from the 1950s to the 1970s and never amounted to much on the pro tour because for reasons of his own he was never interested in winning competitions. He was just interested in hitting golf balls consistently well and at this he may have been the greatest ever. His practise routine from age 16-32 involved hitting 800 balls a day, 5 days a week.
• Laszlo and Klara devoted their lives to teaching Susan chess and when 2 more daughters followed – Sophia and Judit – they were put into the programme as well. All three daughters were home-schooled - their parents quit their jobs to devote themselves to their work – and the schooling consisted largely of chess instructions. The family accumulated a library of 10,000 chess books (wtf ! – do 10,000 chess books even exist? Lol) A giant pre-computer age system filing system of index cads catalogued previous games and potential opponents. The daughters learned other subjects as well – the Hungarian authorities insisted that they all pass regular exams in school subjects and all three daughters spoke several languages. But chess was the main thing – hours and hours of it every day.
• Top performers understand their field at a higher level than average performers do and thus have a superior structure for remembering information about it.
• Benjamin Franklin would rewrite spectator essays in verse. Then after he had forgotten them he would take his versified essays and rewrite them in prose again comparing his efforts with the original.
• Charles Coffin, CEO from 1892 to 1912, realised that GE’s real products weren’t lightbulbs or electric motors but business leaders; developing them has been the company’s focus ever since.
• At Worthington industries the Ohio based steel processor, when an employee is hired to join a plant floor team he works for a 90-day probationary period after which the team determines his fate by vote. It works because much of the teams pay is at risk, based on performance, so team members are clear eyed and unsparing in evaluating a new candidates contribution.
• Its Mary’s birthday. Sing her a song. Without another word of instruction, the group immediately sings happy birthday to Mary. Then Benjamin Zander (conductor of the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra) says “well that was very good, but you know I think you can do it better. Now please sing it again but better. Go! … complete silence.
• Give your brain the right kind of training – for example by making it do 2 things at once – and plasticity will increase in the regions that normally show the greatest atrophy in years.
• A different explanation forwarded by winner and some other researchers is the reverse. Instead of compulsive practise producing high ability, high ability leads to compulsive practise.
• If the drive to excel develops rather than appearing fully formed, then how does it develop? Several researchers have separately proposed a mechanism that suggest an answer. Part of its appeal is that it helps explain why some people but not others develop high level skills and at the same time develop the increasing motivation needed to do ever more advanced work – it’s called the multiplier effect. -
While I agree with the general premise of the book, that hard work is the key to success and achievement, I didn't really like the book. I found it long winded, repetitive, and often not very convincing. The author never really defines what "talent" is, almost denies its existence in the first chapters, then down plays its importance in the later chapters. This is an age old debate. It is nature AND nurture that make us who we are. And yes, hard work is what really makes the difference.