| Title | : | Batwoman, Volume 5: Webs |
| Author | : | |
| Rating | : | |
| ISBN | : | 1401250823 |
| ISBN-10 | : | 9781401250829 |
| Language | : | English |
| Format Type | : | Paperback |
| Number of Pages | : | 272 |
| Publication | : | First published December 2, 2014 |
Collects BATWOMAN ANNUAL #1 and BATWOMAN #25-34.
Batwoman, Volume 5: Webs Reviews
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(B) 72% | More than Satisfactory
Notes: An exsanguinous pasteurization, it staggers listless and ramshackle, aspiring to adequacy in the most ordinary ways. -
Disappointing, but then I knew going into it that it probably wouldn't be what I was hoping for anyway. I didn't start reading it with any plans to hate it, though.
I guess I finished this feeling more meh than anything else.
Pssst!
Some Spoilers Ahead!
The art is certainly not bad, but nothing compared to the lush look of the previous volumes.
I was looking forward to finally putting that cliffhanger ending from volume 4 behind me, but (wouldn't you know it) there's yet another cliffhanger at the end of this one.
The plot was ok, but the execution wasn't the best. For example, Maggie thinks Kate has PTSD, and wants her to see a shrink. Kate bucks it for a while but finally goes in, and then there's the inevitable awkward talk about her sexual preference. I find it hard to believe a professional therapist would make such a rookie assumption, but maybe I'm wrong.
And speaking of Kate's relationship, WHY in the name of all that is good and holy, did they split Maggie & Kate up at the end? This was one of the best real relationships that DC had going for it!
And they used Maggie's daughter to do it!
Ok, in all fairness, it wasn't that the little girl wanted them to split, but the ex-husband who couldn't stand to see his ex-wife with a woman.
Uuuuuuugh.
So, in order to spare Maggie the pain of losing her daughter, Kate breaks it off...*cue the tears*
What?! Um, how about, no?
Kate is not only incredibly wealthy (meaning able to finance a massive court battle), but she's got lots of powerful people on her side (meaning fucking Bruce Wayne) to help the retarded asshole think twice about trying to take a kid away from their mother because of some revenge scheme.
And if that didn't work, she could just dress up in costume, and scare the shit out of the fucker!
Beyond all of that, I can't see how the guy would have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a court to grant sole custody to him, just because his ex-wife is gay. It just made the break-up seem all the more pathetic and contrived.
I'm calling bullshit on that one, DC.
The two main villains in this were Wolf Spider & and some vampire chick named (I shit you not!), Nocturna.
Wolf Spider is an art thief. Or maybe he's just a thief who happened to be stealing art this time around? Whatever.
It was an ok little mystery into (yet another) one of Gotham's Founding Fathers, and his eeeeevil legacy that still lives on today.
The Nocturna storyline pulls Kate right back into the paranormal, and is the issue that leaves us with the GASP! of a cliffhanger.
Kate's adventure during Zero Year is also included in this.
It's weird, but I didn't realize she and Bruce were related until I saw this issue. So, I guess it's good I read this one, right?
She's home from the army for a family funeral when things go wonky. Not one to sit by, she heads out into the night to protect the citizens of Gotham, and...blah, blah blah.
Alrighty, it may seem like I hated this volume, but it wasn't badly written. I'm just disgusted with the second-rate treatment this character seems to have been given. This was one title that I always looked forward to, because it was so different and special. The artwork was always stunning, and the plot (while not perfect) revolved around characters that I cared about. I'm just not sure what to think about the 'new direction' this has taken.
I'll read the next volume if I get the chance, but I'm not expecting magic from it anymore. -
In late 2013, JH Williams III and W. Haden Blackman, the writers of Batwoman since the New 52 began, announced their exit from the title after becoming frustrated with DC Editorial’s last minute changes to planned storylines – which were approved by DC Editorial months in advance! The biggest change DC made was reversing their decision to allow Kate and Maggie to marry (DC however are not anti-gay marriage, they’re just against marriage for their characters), as well as asking for a rewrite on the conclusion to Williams/Blackman’s massive arc, This Blood is Thick.
Williams initially mentioned that he and Blackman would be leaving the title after Batwoman #26 but it seems that was brought forward to #24 as the new creative team of Marc Andreyko and Jeremy Haun began their run, and this volume, with Batwoman #25.
Given the controversy surrounding this Batwoman volume then, I was surprised to find that Webs is actually an ok comic, especially as this book collects 11 issues – usually a warning sign that DC want to get a series out the door and done with (see Savage Hawkman Vol 2!).
Andreyko polishes off This Blood is Thick with the opening issue, a rushed and barmy finale that I didn’t follow as I missed the last two volumes of the series. I’m sure if I was more invested in the storyline, I wouldn’t have appreciated someone else finishing what the original creative team started.
But that’s the thing: as much as I can sympathise with Williams and Blackman being yet another casualty of the near-schizophrenic decisions of DC Editorial, I didn’t think their Batwoman series was that good. It looked awesome with first Williams’ glorious art and then later Amy Reeder’s wonderful work – but the writing and storytelling was always average at best, descending in quality as the series went on, which is why I stopped reading after Vol 2.
Andreyko then begins his storyline, Webs, which isn’t a great one but it’s also not bad. Andreyko doesn’t muddy the waters by being convoluted and the various threads are well-defined and easy to follow, which is the mark of a good storytelling style - it’s just the story itself isn’t that interesting!
A character called Wolf Spider is hired by a rich guy to steal Depression-era paintings as part of an elaborate treasure hunt for another one of Gotham’s founding families; Batwoman fights him. There’s a black widow who’s also a vampire called Nocturna; Batwoman fights her. There’s also two of the most forgettable side-villains you’ve ever heard of: Killshot and Night Thief; Batwoman fights them.
Still awake? There’s some drama about Kate and Maggie’s relationship (isn’t there always?) – Maggie’s ex isn’t happy that his daughter Jamie’s being brought up in a home with two lesbians so there’s some custody battling leading to some forced theatrics. There’s also a Zero Year one-shot where we see a pre-Batwoman Kate decide to play vigilante during Riddler’s blackout of Gotham which is very meh (and of course she and Maggie catch each other’s eyes for the first time).
Webs is a very ordinary superhero book that doesn’t stray far from the safe confines of well-defined superhero comics, particularly the DC kind. Andreyko’s somewhat lively dialogue though keeps things from becoming too stale and it’s also an accessible and readable book without being confusing through poor structure – the main problem with Batwoman under Williams/Blackman.
Maybe it’s because I was expecting a travesty that I found Batwoman Vol 5 kinda enjoyable in parts and I was pleasantly surprised on the whole. I’m not loving the vampire angle (vampires are way overplayed in general) but Andreyko’s decent first Batwoman volume has got me cautiously interested in the title again. -
There's some interesting ideas within but they're not woven together as well as in the previous editions. This is probably because of the sudden change in writers. Additionally, a choice made by DC upset many of the fans but no spoilers.
A series like Batwoman takes more finesse than your standard graphic novel and while there is promise within, well, it simply isn't delivering. I am not entirely surprised that this is the second to last of the books in the series.
OVERALL GRADE: B minus to B. -
Good battles, good mystery good drama, cliffhanger ending I won't get resolved for three months...
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Well I'm done with this title. Seriously, if you were a fan before, I think you should stop here. It's a waste of money. Despite trying to overstuff this volume with 4 different stories, everything falls flat. Mark Andreyko manages to take what was one of the New 52's most promising, interesting, and unique titles and turn it into just another book on the shelf.
So let's start with the multitude of stories. The first issue wraps up what Williams and Blackman had been building to for 4 volumes. It manages to do so in a spectacularly disappointing and unentertaining fashion. Batman is not defeated, but becomes the rescuer, again preventing a woman from being her own hero. All of the loose ends from the previous installments are quickly swept under the rug and everyone goes on with their lives. By the end of the issue, it seems like so much has changed that it is a completely different book, which it really is now, sadly.
The next issue is another worthless Zero Year tie in. There is nothing new or special about this issue. It doesn't add to Kate's backstory, but rather gives her a strange, unexplained, tension with Bruce Wayne and a forced hero complex that doesn't quite fit with her defined timeline. On top of that, the book is just damn ugly. Kate hardly looks like herself, and it's the first time I've found myself actually criticizing her wardrobe. It was jarring to realize.
Then there are two more stories. One about Wolf Spider, a boring art thief that switches between killing people and putting them to sleep with no real motivation. The story isn't fully resolved, but there are offensively heavy-handed hints at who it could be. It awkwardly walks the line between obtuse and elementary. Then they switch to Nocturna's storyline, a "black widow" villain who kills her husbands for money. They throw in another two villains as throw aways and have a series of strange encounters. Andreyko tries to end with a cliffhanger, but it just annoyed me and made me care even less. He also pushed as hard as he could to elicit emotion with Kate's personal life, but failed miserably. I felt nothing but annoyance and apathy about her decisions.
Some have said the art redeems it. While Jeremy Haun does some decent work, it's not as good as the previous team, and what little he does well is completely watered down by the team of incompetent fill-ins that had to provide extra pages and issues. While Haun manages to draw decent figures, their movements are ridiculous. Many panels were nearly incomprehensible how an actual body would flow from one position to the next. The poses from the action scenes made especially little sense. Others ran the gamut from simply unpleasant to actively offensive in how bad they were.
This is a train wreck. The book gained a following in the first place because of how much Williams and Blackman cared about the character and were passionate about her actions. Now she's just another member of the Bat-family fighting an uphill battle in Gotham while her personal life falls apart. It is bland, unoriginal, and generally bad. I'm done and don't expect to come back unless the last creative team were to be reinstated. -
This trade, the first after J. H. Williams and W. Haden Blackman left the title, is very much a mixed bag. The opening annual finishes off the previous story, and whilst it was originally released a lot later than this chronologically, it's good to print it first to sort the story out. The way the story is resolved makes sense, but feels a little safe. It's serviceable enough though.
The Zero Year issue is also decent if unremarkable. Then comes the six part titular Webs storyline which goes on for about 4 issues longer than it should. The Kate Kane storyline is great as she deals with Maggie's ex-husband, and her Batwoman and civilian lives collide, but the actual story against Wolf Spider is predictable, and doesn't even resolve itself, making the entire thing a waste of time.
Thankfully, the next storyline involving Nocturna is a step back up, but ends mid-way through thanks to the trade ending, so fingers crossed that it ends better than Webs did.
The art is mostly solid, with Trevor McCarthy's artwork being the highlight in the annual. Jeremy Haun joins the title, but can't seem to draw 3 issues in a row without a fill-in, which is always irritating.
So overall, not a bad continuation, but of course Batwoman isn't a patch on what it was before. -
1 star book elevated by the appearance of Nocturna in the New 52! She and Batman used to get busy when Jason Todd was still Robin!
Anyhow...finalized the cliffhanger from Williams' run on the title, and not shockingly at all, Batman makes Batwoman look like a little girl. Honestly, I know Bats is the gold standard heavyweight champ of DC, but you really threw Kate under the bus here...she looks dumb, unprepared, and easily beaten. I suppose she's new with this stuff, but all I see is her looking weak as hell.
Finally we are done with the sister and DEO story lines....for now. We also lost General Kane, which is a loss for the book and character.
Then the new creative takes over and it just goes to shit.
Artwork is done by a football team worth of artists....I swear about 15 different contributors....that being a pleasant way of describing the talents. Also, ruins the flow and continuity of story when the art changes each few pages. This would never happen on Batman or another top tier book.
Obviously this takes place before the Batgirl reboot, the Forever Evil, and other things.
The reintroduction of Nocturna is the only bright spot in the rest of this abysmal new direction. Also, Maggie and Kate? Really? Ugh. Stupid. Everyone has to be sad and miserable?
There's a Killshot introduced, but not the same one from earlier DC, and he is lame too. An assassin who misses? Ugh. Wolf Spider? I knew in 5 minutes who he was...a bunch of losers in Arkham? Obviously before Batman Eternal as well....
On the whole, even when I didn't like JH Williams on the book, it was better than this crap. Avoid just so DC doesn't get to keep driving off creative teams who don't want to be strong armed.
This is not a title I will follow, as I have now said after 3 of these books. But I'm sure now, until a reboot, which is probably already underway! -
Way to piss away the potential of a good title. With the exit of the writer and artist over creative differences on the title, DC scrubbed in some weak-ass shit for the conclusion of the storyline. I can't count the number of panels where Hawkfire and/or Batwoman don't get noses. Or shading.
Also, previously in the storyline, Batwoman and a mercenary team come into grudging respect for one another. Change writers and we get this exchange:
"I'm not used to sitting on my hands while a girl does all the work."
"How very sexist of you, mate."
"C'mon. We're all thinking it."
"Enough chatter, boys. And remember, that "girl" kick all of your asses."
"Don't remind me, Jake. What do you feed the Kane gals? Human growth hormone with a side of creatine?" [all emphasis theirs - hard to tell what's deliberate and what's not]
It's hard to read this as anything but editorializing from the new creative team. The message I received is that rather than develop a fully realized character fighting monsters and nightmares, we're going to follow stereotypical gender roles and assume chicks have to be on steroids to be the equal of a man. I'm not even going to bother continuing through the rest of this collection to get to the obligatory vampire rape storyline.
TL;DR - Fuck you, DC. -
Well, seeing some not so good reviews about this volume made me almost drop this, after Williams and Blackman had left the book. But i'm really glad i didn't.
I really liked this book, more that i was expecting! We got an end for the last arc, where we finally see the end of the D.O.E, and then, Marc and Jeremy Haun, who's a very good artist, embarc on their own run. First we got a theft story, where Kate is investigating some arts that are being stolen by a guy named Spider Wolf (who's true identity is a little bit obvious). A good arc, where again, as we've learned in all of the New 52 books of the Bat Family, Gotham has decades of secrets that no one have ever stumbled on it. Go figure. And on the last arc, we have a girl named Nocturna as the bad girl.
Amazing art (not so much towards the end), good dialogue, good plots envolving Kate's relationship, especially with Mags and a good development. Batwoman still is one the best titles that the 2011's reboot had brought to light. -
Where the Hell are all the low-lifes when I need something to punch?
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This Blood is Thick (Annual). It's impossible not to rate this finale in relation to the story that it's concluding, and unfortunately it's quite bad. Where before we'd had a serious character-driven comic, suddenly we have a comic action-adventure with horribly clichéd dialogue ("It ... can't ... end ... this way!") and unbelievable actions (let's assault our guards and escape, after faking a heart attack!). It's also rushed and ends on a note that undercuts the whole series to date, as Kate and Batman go on patrol. Gag! Oh, and half of the art is so cartoony that it works against the style of Batwoman to date (and the style of the other half of this issue). The best I can say for this issue is that is manages to wrap up the plot threads of the previous run. [2/10].
I tried to consider the rest of the volume on its own merits, by putting it away for a couple of days, and thus not having the great development and writing of the previous volumes so clear in my mind. Sadly, that wasn't overall successful.
Year Zero (25). I was a bit more satisfied with the writing here, in and off itself, but this is a Year Zero book at its worst, full of unlikely but significant meetings. Very heavy-handed [5/10].
Webs (26-31). At first I thought that Andreyko's first longer arc was just mediocre superhero fare, but then I increasingly realized how tone-deaf it was to Batwoman. Jake is totally dumped from the comic. Kate has serious problems fighting some two-bit costume, and their battles drag on and on. Maggie is dragged into a soap operatic court case. Then, in the middle of a fight in Arkham, the villain opens up all the prison cells, Because that's never been done before. Gah .... Some of this would have been bad in any comic, but the rest is definitely bad for Batwoman [4/10].
Vampires (32-34). This final arc is even more horribly out-of-tune with Batwoman to date. I mean it's become some sort of crappy pseudo-comedy with characters named Killshot and Night-Thief, and there's even an uncomfortable, offensive vampire plot. And of course a godawful stupid reason to break up Mags and Kate that just stinks of editorial mandate. Maybe in another comic this might be OK, but not worth continuing with. Here, it just seems like the author has no idea what he's writing. [4/10].
Overall, this was a bitterly disappointing volume. I mean, I knew Williams and Blackman were gone, but I liked Andreyko's run on Manhunter, so I thought it might be OK. Unfortunately, his writing style is a pretty horrible match for Batwoman, and on top of that, he's not at his best here. I'm not sure if I should even keep this volume, despite it being the "conclusion" of the previous run. -
Aw, crap. Another cliffhanger? Jeez.
Before the main story, we get a decent conclusion to This Blood is Thick though the art isn't as good and makes some of the scenes a bit confusing.
Then we get a partial origin (Year Zero) story where Kate is still at West Point, but comes to Gotham, finds some trouble and . (Who happened ot be in Gotham from the Metropolis PD - I knew that's where she was from.)
I thought the rest of the trade was an enjoyable read.
But.
But -
Holy cliffhanger, Batwoman!
I'm still fairly new to the graphic novel / comic book scene, but I don't understand why the ratings are so low on this one. I liked it! Some of the new drawing styles didn't do it for me at all, and that's why it lost a star for me. Other than that -- I enjoyed it. Wolf Spider seemed like a cross between Spiderman and Deadpool, which was amusing. I'd like to see more of him. I don't want to give any spoilers but something happened near the end that was just lame. It didn't make sense that it was handled that way when there were so many other options. I'm hoping they'll rectify that in the following issues?
On to the next volume! -
This seems to be the downfall of what was one of DC's best comics. A new creative team (who forced the old, better, team out) has taken over, and they've thrown away all the good things that made Batwoman so great. Sigh.
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I've read all of the books in this series and currently reading the last one. I started reading because Batwoman is a lesbian in a long-term relationship in this series, and that is what has kept me reading. The relationship is portrayed well enough, considering the character's primary role as flawed superhero. I like her backstory and her relationship with her family. The series, while not the best, is entertaining enough. I wish her relationship with her partner was explored more.
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Gone is my Batwoman of yore. Not allowed to have a meaningful relationship due to DC idiocy, bumped down to lesser writers and illustrators (IMO), and not even having her own special supernatural niche of Gotham anymore,this time around Battina only gets to fight a sorta vampire, and this guy:
Party on, Garth.
This guy's Wolfspider, a Batman/Catwoman amalgam baddie not interesting enough to have his own agenda. Nocturna the vampire lady (yes really, Nocturna), does have her own agenda, but I doubt anything unique will come out of a vampire story here.
All in all, this book just kind of is. With some minor changes you could put almost any super in Kate's place for this volume, and that's not what has kept me reading this series. -
Well...I think Marc Andreyko tried. Real hard. But I fear that Vol. 6, ostensibly the END of Batwoman in the DC Universe for the foreseeable future, will jump the shark, and make me curse DC even more than I already do for letting Williams/Blackman go. For my money, Batwoman was one of the best titles of the New 52. And now.....it's not. Because lesbians can't get married???
Supreme Court disagrees, DC.
Speaking of which, can we please have a book where Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the leader of a rag-tag bunch of aging Supreme Court Justices by day, and MMA fighters with regenerative powers by night?? First Bad Guy on the docket: DC Comics. -
Eh. Meh.
But at least the Jeremy Haun Art was great. -
Andreyko's first volume of Batwoman doesn't quite reach the heights of the previous volumes, but it doesn't reach the lows either (Well I write that and then I remember the rushed finale tacked on to the beginning of this book. To be fair, I don't think Andreyko was given much time to write a finale to someone else's story).
I'm not particularly interested in this iteration of Nocturna's character, but the new character, Wolf-Spider, is a solid addition. He fleshes out Kate's social life by giving her more friends outside of her vigilante life to talk to, and there's something charming about Kate having a supervillain for a friend and the two are just completely oblivious to each others secrets. Hope he pops up again in another story.
I winced a bit when Andreyko's first major arc focused on driving a wedge between Kate and Maggie, but using Kate's tendency to be melodramatic was a smart move. It felt in character for Kate given how over the top she was with fear gas in the last volume, and given how Maggie's level headedness allowed them to persevere the last time Kate's martyr complex got in the way, I don't see this as the end of their relationship.
If I could describe this book in one word it'd be consistent. There's no shifting story structure, no weird time jumps, and no characters who aren't properly introduced. It feels like for the first time this series has some stability and I hope the next volume is even better now that Andreyko has his feet wet with these characters. -
Very standard stuff. Not living up to the excitement of earlier volumes in art or story.
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Nope nope nope. This makes me so mad. I knew the series would change because of the creative team's departure, but it's just so painful to see an original, ass-kicking female character turned into this mediocre mush. This is not the Kate Kane of volumes 1-4. Sexism in comics is not just about the cheesecake artwork - it's also about taking Kate's story arc and making Batman the hero of it. It's about taking her efforts of the last volume and scrapping them, making her fawn all over Batman, admiring the "teamwork" of the bat-family, which she had criticized before. It's about taking an adult relationship and turning it into teenage drama for no reason. Or Jacob's team members making childish sexist remarks towards Bette, when they had nothing but respect for her before. It's sweeping the complicated choices Agent Chase made and chalking them up to manipulation, which reduces her to a pawn in Bones' game and takes away her choice, her reasoning, her combative dynamic with Batwoman...it's all swept under the rug. Yuck.
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The new creative team for Batwoman is alright. Not as good as the old one, but not bad either. They had big shoes to fill and things could've gone a lot worse. I read this volume in one sitting and enjoyed it. There are some great two-page spreads in here. However, the art isn't as distinct as before, with more boxy panels and traditional looking art. It still looks nice though. The writing is good. I don't have anything to complain about, despite some of the things Kate does here. Her reasoning seems acceptable enough to not roll my eyes over. I'm interested in, and love the characters enough, to keep reading Batwoman.
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I can definitely understand why so many fans were disappointed with with DC here. The choice to break Kate and Maggie apart really felt pretty forced and was a real letdown. I knew it was coming but it didn't make it any less disappointing.
I did enjoy both The Wolf Spider and Nocturna storylines, and while another cliffhanger ending is pretty annoying I'm looking forward to seeing how that turns out. -
3.5 stars.
The first half was really slow and kind of wrapped up the previous storyline a bit haphazardly. However the second half was great and I'm really intrigued to see where the new writer is going with the story. I didn't like the art style as much but it's still pretty good. -
I like Wolf Spider and Nocturna but this volume lacked the beauty and smartness of the previous ones.
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A total disappointment.
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So.... Freaking... Good....
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So when we last left Batwoman, the creative team of J.H. Williams III and W. Haden Blackman had walked off the book during the This Blood is Thick story arc when DC editorial had nixed their idea of having Kate Kane and her girlfriend, Detective Maggie Sawyer, get married. Since I had read all of the Batwoman comics up to this point, I felt I needed to continue on. But to be frank, given the reason for Williams and Blackman's departure, I had been avoiding reading this because I was afraid I would be disappointed that the direction this book was likely going to take.
Sometimes, I hate being right.
First, let me state that I don't totally blame new writer Marc Andreyko for the mess he inherited. That blame should mostly land on the shoulders of DC editorial who nixed the idea of a gay marriage happening in the pages of Batwoman even though such marriage would be validated by the U.S. Supreme Court not less than a year after issue #34 in this collection was originally published. And if we absorb this Batwoman collection in a vacuum, the "Wolf Spider" arc which dominates most of the action is a bog standard story arc where Batwoman fights a new adversary named Wolf Spider who steals paintings that hold some greater secret than the fact that they may be collectibles. In the past I would have given this book kudos for once again creating a villain that wasn't reliant on Batman himself to exist, but unfortunately, Andreyko's mission here is to exert the will of DC editorial and it is the final story arc of the collection where things get really shitty.
By the end of the collection, all of the work that Williams and Blackman set up in the previous volumes with Kate and Maggie's relationship is obliterated. Kate leaves Maggie after cutting a deal with Maggie's "homophobic" ex-husband to stop his custody fight for her daughter. The way it is set up is that Kate is supposed to seem noble by loving Maggie so much that she would leave her in order to prevent a difficult custody hearing for Maggie and by extension, Maggie's daughter Jamie. This is a steaming pile of horseshit, however, as it completely demeans both Kate and Maggie's identities as lesbians. If I was a parent and all my ex-spouse could offer was my sexual orientation as a reason why I wasn't a good one, I would fight that shit tooth and nail, difficulty be damned. But in their ham-fisted attempt to placate the few readers who couldn't handle Kate and Maggie getting married (and really who are these fucking people anyway? They would have avoided the book to begin with because of Kate's homosexuality), DC editorial decided it would be a better call to insult every gay reader of Batwoman instead, simply because they did not back their creative team. Williams and Blackman did the right thing by walking away, and a ruined Batwoman is the ultimate result.
I have said it before and will continue to say it because it always happens this way--the best stories from good and great creative teams always seem to get shit on by editorial. Sometimes it's because of ridiculous crossovers, and sometimes it's because of shit like this. There are ways that this could be fixed, and I am hoping that the close proximity of the legalization of gay marriage with the publication dates of the next Batwoman collection encouraged DC editorial to allow Andreyko to make this right, but my hopes aren't high.
